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Diesel wrote:Fan boys just need to calm down a bit.
That type of comment isn't really welcome nor necessary.

Especially as no one behaved in a childish or fanboy-ish manner. They thought RBR had a wheel cover, no harm in that.
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mx_tifosi wrote:
Diesel wrote:Fan boys just need to calm down a bit.
That type of comment isn't really welcome nor necessary.

Especially as no one behaved in a childish or fanboy-ish manner. They thought RBR had a wheel cover, no harm in that.
+1 this thread is very calm especially when compared to the Ferrari and usf1 threads!
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I doubted the speed of the RB6 when it debuted, but i realized that the RB5 concept with a well integrated DDD seems to be consistently quick. I am not sure about the tyre wear, but the car looks to be very strong.
I hope they sort out the fuel pump cavitation problem. They might have to change a part of the fuel cell to something more conventional if it means they want to get the reliability. The problem seems to keep popping up.
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ringo wrote:They might have to change a part of the fuel cell to something more conventional if it means they want to get the reliability. The problem seems to keep popping up.
Interesting, I think I missed this. What is unconventional about their fuel cell set up?

Bit off topic but Scarbs has blogged Vettel testing a heated visor.
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Pretty ugly but handy if it works. Also I have only just noticed red 5 is back in F1 8) Cool!!!

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RacingManiac wrote:What disc? That looks like a normal, spinning wheel...
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BBC Sport's Sarah Holt in Barcelona wrote:Red Bull have had to change their engines twice in the opening three tests and yet another stop doesn't bode well.
Are we going to see another season of great performance blighted by engine problems?
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horse wrote:
BBC Sport's Sarah Holt in Barcelona wrote:Red Bull have had to change their engines twice in the opening three tests and yet another stop doesn't bode well.
Are we going to see another season of great performance blighted by engine problems?
Quite possibly. I did think they would have sorted these issues from last season, especially with some help from Renault who don't seem to have them, but it's highly ulikely they're not going to have some DNFs if they're having issues at this late stage.

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thestig84 wrote:
ringo wrote:They might have to change a part of the fuel cell to something more conventional if it means they want to get the reliability. The problem seems to keep popping up.
Interesting, I think I missed this. What is unconventional about their fuel cell set up?
I don't know the details, but on other message boards there was talk of the fuel pump overheating over long runs that caused cavitation and affect the fuel delivery.
It's possible the pump is placed unconventionally, since cavitation can be remedied with a higher head of fluid on the pick up side among other things. Whatever it is, they are having problems the other teams are not, so i supposed it could be packaging constraints that are preventing them from fixing it.
Wish there was real verification of the issue though.
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Well the RB6 is looking pretty fast so far, Webbo smashed the Hulk by 9/10ths! 8)

1 Webber Red Bull 1m21.487s
2 Hulkenberg Williams 1m22.407s +0.920
3 Rosberg Mercedes 1m22.514s +1.027
4 de la Rosa Sauber 1m23.144s +1.657
5 Button McLaren 1m23.452s +1.965
6 Liuzzi Force India 1m24.064s +2.577
7 Alonso Ferrari 1m24.170s +2.683
8 Petrov Renault 1m24.173s +2.686
9 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1m24.869s +3.382
10 Di Grassi Virgin 1m27.057s +5.570
11 Fauzy Lotus 1m28.002s +6.515

of course no one knows exactly what the others where up to but there where quite a few shorts runs done by the other drivers.
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Webber: More to come from Red Bull
Mark Webber thinks there is even more performance to come from Red Bull Racing's RB6 following the car's dominant start to the final pre-season test at Barcelona.

The Australian ended day one nearly a full second clear of the opposition as Red Bull ran several aerodynamic upgrades in Spain. While there will not be many changes to the car between now and Bahrain, Webber expects his team to find even more speed with the package....
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ringo wrote: I don't know the details, but on other message boards there was talk of the fuel pump overheating over long runs that caused cavitation and affect the fuel delivery.
It's possible the pump is placed unconventionally, since cavitation can be remedied with a higher head of fluid on the pick up side among other things. Whatever it is, they are having problems the other teams are not, so i supposed it could be packaging constraints that are preventing them from fixing it.
Wish there was real verification of the issue though.
The stop was apparently due to a high mileage gearbox:
"We had a precautionary stop in the middle of the race simulation because of a gearbox oil alarm, but the guys got the car turned around pretty quickly and we finished the session, so it wasn't too bad."
Q & A with Mark Webber
Q. Today you had a problem with the gearbox. Is reliability a concern?

MW: Okay, we had one problem today. But apart from that one we were faultless, so we were very close to pulling off a beautiful smooth day. Of course we need to do that all the time, but when testing is so limited everyone has a curve ball which gives you a problem. Also, to learn about the car sometimes you have to run parts close to the limit on milage, and obviously that wouldn't be the case on race weekends.
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Another AutoSport Story:

Webber flies in first Barcelona test
Mark Webber produced the star performance on the opening day of this week's pre-season test at Barcelona on Thursday with the fastest lap overall - and strong long-run times to boot.

The Red Bull Racing driver set his best lap of 1m21.487s during the morning session, when he focused exclusively on short blasts of a few laps that went some way to showing the potential of his RB6 on low fuel.

His best effort, set shortly before 12.30pm, was not matched by any other driver - and in fact he had a further seven laps that would have been good enough for him to head the timesheets.

In the afternoon, Webber completed a long 26-lap run, which showed encouraging consistent improvement throughout the stint, before his car stopped on track and brought out a red flag....
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No new changes to the car right?
Wow not bad, the car is deceivingly fast. They were right when they took the extra week to complete the car. It's starting to look like a title contender for another year.
Let's see if anyone has an answer tomorrow :wink:
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Mark seemed to indicate that the car was in Charain spec, so can anyone confirm if there has been any updates introduced at this test?

From the little iv seen the car seems to be in the same spec as the last 2 tests.

Somem teams are going to have big steps coming into Bahrain so its pretty important we are not standing still.

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SoliRossi wrote:Mark seemed to indicate that the car was in Charain spec, so can anyone confirm if there has been any updates introduced at this test?

From the little iv seen the car seems to be in the same spec as the last 2 tests.

Somem teams are going to have big steps coming into Bahrain so its pretty important we are not standing still.
Webbo did indicate that there was some new aero bits though no note as to what they were. Looking at the pic link below it looks like the lower element of the rear wing is now tapered along the leading edge but I'm not sure about that. Other than that I didn't spot any differences.

http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/13245940