2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Vanja #66]

Leclerc: Ferrari’s tyre management better than ever

https://www.racefans.net/2024/04/09/rac ... p-09-04-7/

“Since I arrived in Ferrari, we always had the tendency of being very fast in qualifying and struggling a lot with tyre management in the race,” he told Viaplay. “It’s for now the most positive beginning of the year I’ve seen in terms of tyre management and just the car being easier.

“It’s not like we, the drivers, are doing something very different to what we were doing in the past. It’s just a car that is in a better place and manages the tyres better. So that is a good sign and it’s encouraging for the rest of the season.”

Leclerc ran third in the latter stages of the race until he was passed by Carlos Sainz Jnr. He said he couldn’t have kept his team mate behind.

“I honestly don’t think we were expecting to have both cars at the same point,” said Leclerc. “We were on different strategies and Carlos was much faster on fresher tyres. There was no real point for me to be fighting him..”

[Xyz22]

Leclerc was back in Maranello today.
Simulator work to try and fix the issues with the quali.

One would think that this shouldn't be that hard since they have all the data from Sainz and his set up...

Maybe what Sainz does is not working for how Leclerc drives the car in the actual lap.

[Xwang]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

[scuderiabrandon]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

Hysteresis is a good way to heat the tyre assuming you stay within the limit of the tyre. More downforce will always be better in that case. The tyres are much more sensitive to sliding & scrubbing, which generally is a sign of a lack of downforce.

[AR3-GP]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

Hysteria is a good way to heat the tyre assuming you stay within the limit of the tyre. More downforce will always be better in that case. The tyres are much more sensitive to sliding & scrubbing, which generally is a sign of a lack of downforce.

Hysteria? Did you mean something else?

[scuderiabrandon]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

Hysteria is a good way to heat the tyre assuming you stay within the limit of the tyre. More downforce will always be better in that case. The tyres are much more sensitive to sliding & scrubbing, which generally is a sign of a lack of downforce.

Hysteria? Did you mean something else?

Yes, hysteresis lmao

[deadhead]

Hysteria is a good way to heat the tyre assuming you stay within the limit of the tyre. More downforce will always be better in that case. The tyres are much more sensitive to sliding & scrubbing, which generally is a sign of a lack of downforce.

Hysteria? Did you mean something else?

Yes, hysteresis lmao

So generating heat in the tires through downforce is better than sliding, even if the slide is "controlled" for the purpose of heat generation?

[leblanc]

Hysteria? Did you mean something else?

Yes, hysteresis lmao

So generating heat in the tires through downforce is better than sliding, even if the slide is "controlled" for the purpose of heat generation?

Yes because less degradation.

[Andres125sx]

https://ibb.co/ZJPhKxT

Impressive by LEC

Cherry picking?

Sainz did 37.9 on next lap (11/14 instead of 10/14).

Still impressive from Leclerc, but that´s exactly the reason there´s no need to cherry picking some laps to boost Leclerc. He does not need that!

They averaged the last 4 laps of the listed driver's 1 stints. So Sainz' 37.9 is included.

Leclerc stint was ~12 laps longer than the other drivers listed. I would say this is anything but "cherry picking".

Actually, last 4 laps average is 39.229 for Leclerc, 38.780 for Sainz

[scuderiabrandon]

Cherry picking?

Sainz did 37.9 on next lap (11/14 instead of 10/14).

Still impressive from Leclerc, but that´s exactly the reason there´s no need to cherry picking some laps to boost Leclerc. He does not need that!

They averaged the last 4 laps of the listed driver's 1 stints. So Sainz' 37.9 is included.

Leclerc stint was ~12 laps longer than the other drivers listed. I would say this is anything but "cherry picking".

Actually, last 4 laps average is 39.229 for Leclerc, 38.780 for Sainz

You are counting the in-laps as one of the 4 laps.

The averages that were provided are 100% correct

[Vanja #66]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

Vertical load, ie downforce, does not heat up the tyres on its own. Cornering, braking, wheelspin etc - those things do. In this video, Vettel reaches 290 kmh on the main straight and tyres keep getting slightly cooler everywhere bar the contact strip (which is on the inside due to camber, of course). As soon as he enters the corner, tyres heat up even though he's going slower and downforce drops as square function of speed.



When you have more downforce and corner at the same speed as a car that has less, you will save the tyres. Assuming the suspension does not make a difference, which in Ferrari's case is a positive difference in the race in any case. So all in all, if they add good and usable downforce and don't make new issues with balance, Ferrari will be able to go quicker without hurting their tyres more than they do now.

[Wouter]

Click on the feed for the video:

[bluechris]

Being more gentle on tyre, means that there is more "space" for adding aero load (if they manage to improve it) before the tyres become to hot and go over the cliff?

Vertical load, ie downforce, does not heat up the tyres on its own. Cornering, braking, wheelspin etc - those things do. In this video, Vettel reaches 290 kmh on the main straight and tyres keep getting slightly cooler everywhere bar the contact strip (which is on the inside due to camber, of course). As soon as he enters the corner, tyres heat up even though he's going slower and downforce drops as square function of speed.



When you have more downforce and corner at the same speed as a car that has less, you will save the tyres. Assuming the suspension does not make a difference, which in Ferrari's case is a positive difference in the race in any case. So all in all, if they add good and usable downforce and don't make new issues with balance, Ferrari will be able to go quicker without hurting their tyres more than they do now.

I just want to add that Toe-in and toe-out gives the most heat in straights.

[deadhead]

Some interesting bits about the tires and Ferrari

https://www-formulapassion-it.translate ... r_pto=wapp

[scuderiabrandon]

What are we expecting in terms of wing level for Shanghai? I'm torn between the 2024 medium dwf spec with a single element beam, or the 2023 spa spec wing with 1 of the 2 upper beam wing elements they have available at the moment. I just hope they don't go too conservative, which ever way they go. I'm leaning towards a lower downforce setup.

I expect Red Bull to show up how they were set up in Jeddah. There we were blitzed on the straights without DRS. We don't seem much better than Red Bull in the low speed, and having good traction here is also pretty important. So I'm undecided at the moment.

Balance wise, if the car is anything like it has been up until now, they should have a good sensation in the 1st sector.

The 2 different rear wings available (at least as far as the public are aware)






The 3 different beam wing configs available (at least as far as the public are aware)