Ferrari F138

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Craig S. talks about F138 in a resume: http://edition.pagesuite-professional.c ... e06f859f98
It is amazing how many parts must be in the Grundon bin just outside the back door of Maranello. It just seems as if they are in a bit of a panic and not thinking methodically.

Another small change to the front wing this weekend but it probably won't be raced...

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Manoah2u wrote:
csponton wrote:changed the front wing of the Ferrari

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WJyCylRjhQg/U ... 558149.jpg
FORWORD flap? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Simone Resta, aerodynamic Ferrari calls them so. You think you know more than him?
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United States 2013 - Thursday (14.11.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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csponton wrote:
Manoah2u wrote:
csponton wrote:changed the front wing of the Ferrari

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WJyCylRjhQg/U ... 558149.jpg
FORWORD flap? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Simone Resta, aerodynamic Ferrari calls them so. You think you know more than him?
http://s18.postimg.org/own17xxex/Nuova_immagine.png
Csponton....he meant how you spelt it. You spelt it forword, it is supposed to be forward.

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The Sauber-like turning vane by the barge boards is new in Austin

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The airflow conditioners/VG's atop the sidepods are back in Austin
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It seems Ferrari have modified the outer part of the diffuser
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I think it's good that they put all those details on. They need to try things to get to root of their correlation problem.

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United States 2013 - Thursday (14.11.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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So new external parts seem to be new lower barge boards by the turning vanes. New outside sections of the diffuser. Looks like they cut the carbon fibre and replaced it with sections made of some sort of metal. Titanium maybe? What about the horizontal vortex generators by the mirrors? Have they added a 3rd one or was it always there?

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Kiril Varbanov
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Manoah2u wrote:
csponton wrote:changed the front wing of the Ferrari

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WJyCylRjhQg/U ... 558149.jpg
FORWORD flap? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Civility and decorum, please.
The user you are quoting is obviously Italian, check what he really means with "Soffiature". Hence, there's no need to laugh at someone's English skills. Let's stick with the interesting tech details and stay on topic.

Lovely detail of the flap adjuster:
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Ferrari goes back to using the old beam wing
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csponton
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different diffuser for Ferrari
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detail 2
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emmepi27
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No difference there... It's the same diffuser. They only apply something on the surface (Zircotec?)

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emmepi27 wrote:No difference there... It's the same diffuser. They only apply something on the surface (Zircotec?)
To me it looks like they have rapid-prototyped new diffuser edges, cut the old ones off, glued the new ones on and blended the seam with some filler. Presumably they know it will be strong enough.

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Looks like they run a titanium diffuser with a CF weave coating. Like McLaren did for a while in 2011.
Motorsport Graduate in search of team experience ;)

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:The Sauber-like turning vane by the barge boards is new in Austin

http://formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutton/2 ... usa198.jpg
This airflow conditioner at the bottom of the sidepod wing was already tested in Abu Dhabi.