[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

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FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022

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iam actually happy this is great nwes Honda just slapped FIA face for being Mercedes whores , how can any one compete with the current utter dominance of Mercedes , FIA didn't do any thing to end this farce , so what the point continuing like that , its been 7 years of extremely dull boring racing with Hamilton cruising to wins week after week year after year , i don't even know what makes Renault and Ferrari accept this humiliation.
FIA should rename F1 to Mercedes worldly fictional tournament.
please RBR withdraw from this nonsense.

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Why is Renault forced to supply Red bull again? I’m pretty sure Renault will be very reluctant

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GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
There could be other solutions:

- Ferrari supply Alpha Tauri
- Renault supply Williams
- Mercedes supply Red Bull

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mem wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 11:50
iam actually happy this is great nwes Honda just slapped FIA face for being Mercedes whores , how can any one compete with the current utter dominance of Mercedes , FIA didn't do any thing to end this farce , so what the point continuing like that , its been 7 years of extremely dull boring racing with Hamilton cruising to wins week after week year after year , i don't even know what makes Renault and Ferrari accept this humiliation.
FIA should rename F1 to Mercedes worldly fictional tournament.
please RBR withdraw from this nonsense.
Yeah, I find it really boring also, at least when we had Rosberg there was somebody who could offer a challenge Hamilton in pure performance from time to time. I say this as someone who was a hardcore mercedes fan from 2011-2015.

I don't know the details but I wondered if engines are harder/slower to improve vs. aero. Locking down the engine also seems to have been a bad idea.

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Jambier wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 12:17
GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
There could be other solutions:

- Ferrari supply Alpha Tauri
- Renault supply Williams
- Mercedes supply Red Bull
And who funds the Williams change? They’re being forced to take on Renault PUs in your scenario, no?
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Jambier wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 12:17
GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
There could be other solutions:

- Ferrari supply Alpha Tauri
- Renault supply Williams
- Mercedes supply Red Bull
Renault is about to change pu layout. I expect Redbull will back Renault with both team.
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Wouter wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:46
Honda's demand to stay in F1 was that they could fight for the championship.
And what does RBR do ??? They develop the worst car since years before 2020 !!! Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Very sad for Max, who could have become champion this year if RB had developed a good car. #-o #-o #-o
daf**k you on about??? its not like honda engine is flawless this season. 3 PU dnfs for verstappen, not to mention merc is running away in performance metrics on every single level related to PU: peak power, sustained power, reliability and so on.
Give me a break.

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Jambier wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 12:17
GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
There could be other solutions:

- Ferrari supply Alpha Tauri
- Renault supply Williams
- Mercedes supply Red Bull
Mercedes unlikely to ever supply Red Bull, Williams have a contract until 2025, why would they give that up?
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What if Red Bull buy out Williams engine contract?

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It feels like RB didn't learn from their lessons with Renault, and from Mclaren with Honda.

It's such a shame to see Honda go. In terms of Max, it's difficult to know how he is thinking.
But one thing I would put forward as a possibility is that when the budget cap comes, Merc are going to have a lot of free cash, so a pairing of Verstappen and Hamilton is not unlikely if Max considers himself unhappy at RB, or even of to Ferrari.

I'm a Mclaren fan but I still want to see a strong RB in the sport, but I feel like they are shooting themselves in the foot in terms of how they have handled the Renault, Honda and Ricciardo situations and I worry that the ramifications of this over the past few years is going to begin to really come home to roost soon.
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dfegan358 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 12:08
Why is Renault forced to supply Red bull again? I’m pretty sure Renault will be very reluctant
I don't think so at all, Renault also was vocal it was a mistake by RBR leaving them and they will be out of customer teams next year. I am sure they will prefer two paying customers and a change to prove themselves over just being a one trick pony. it is RBR for who it would be hard to go back.

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GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
I thought the same with McLaren but they let that happen. So one never knows but agreed it's an uphill battle.

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mwillems wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 13:52
It feels like RB didn't learn from their lessons with Renault, and from Mclaren with Honda.
Another absolutely dumb comment.

What lessons are you talking about #-o #-o #-o ? I dont see a single bad thing said by red bull about honda, apart from the obvious ones that even honda admits (lack of power and reliablity problems this year) and when things went good for them there were only praises.

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diffuser wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 13:58
GhostF1 wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 10:47
FIA won't let Mercedes supply 5 teams while Fez supply 3 and Renault just 1.

They'll be returning to Renault. Interesting timing that Renault are developing a split turbo engine for 2022
I thought the same with McLaren but they let that happen. So one never knows but agreed it's an uphill battle.
FIA should make the Mercedes/Ineos Aston Martin PU mandatory and call the class F-Mercedes. Problem solved. Next season we'll have McLaren, Merc, Williams and RP driving around with a Mercedes PU. That's almost half of the grid.