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Horner on F1TV said Checo was on scrubbed tyres in Q3.

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Horner on F1TV said Checo was on scrubbed tyres in Q3.

Yes, but that is also on him.
He used more sets to get through Q1&Q2.

[rbirules]

Horner on F1TV said Checo was on scrubbed tyres in Q3.

Yes, but that is also on him.
He used more sets to get through Q1&Q2.

Yep. They both had four new sets at the start of qualifying. Max could have had three new sets at the start of Q3, Checo used all four new sets to reach Q3.

[AR3-GP]

I think we need to wait until Silverstone to see if the result is an outlier or a legitimate setup breakthrough. There are a few potential caveats:

1) High altitude -> aerodynamics
2) High altitude -> Honda performance vs the others
3) Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes all improved by 3-4 tenths compared to sprint qualy. Mclaren improved by 0 tenths. Its possible that Mclaren went the wrong way with setup changes or didn't change their car at all, while we know that Mercedes, Ferrari, and Red Bull promised or confirmed that there were setup changes. Did Mclaren overheat tires?
4) Norris is ill this weekend so hardly at the peak of his powers.

The first 2 factors were always in Red Bull's favor from 2016 - 2021 while they looked less imperious at sea level. The third factor is possible. It's strange that Mclaren did not improve since yesterday.

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[Sergej]

Wild. Really hope to see a good race pace.

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Wild. Really hope to see a good race pace.
https://twitter.com/ErikvHaren/status/1 ... 5203417250

Translation is that RB have focused on the race for anyone wondering

And some quotes from Marko

"I am very surprised by this difference. Four tenths on this circuit, that means a difference of a second on a circuit like Spa-Francorchamps, or maybe even more," said Red Bull's top advisor Helmut Marko. "And in the set-up we indeed focused mainly on the race on Sunday.

"Every lap of him on fresh rubber would have been good enough for pole position"

And Horner echoed this saying they focused on the race.

The telemetry suggests they made a big step since sprint. They improved in all corner types and on the straights and seemingly gave up nothing

[AR3-GP]

Is it too late to take that engine penalty? Doubtful, I think they want all positive PR for the home race.

[chrisc90]

Is it too late to take that engine penalty? Doubtful, I think they want all positive PR for the home race.

Dont think so.

Wouldnt want to take it in Austria tbh. Tyre allocation is sub-optimal to the others too.

[Xyz22]

Perez is really completely finished.

[venkyhere]

I have to eat my words after being the biggest advocate of "McLaren is the fastest car now" over the past week. And hereby I do.

RBR did some change between sprint and quali, that not only amplified the gains in 9 and 10, but reversed the deficit in 1 and 3 into gains.



Losing time to McL in 4 and gain in 7-8 is more or less remaining the same.
But apart from that, gaining in both low speed AND gaining even more in high speed -- something doesn't make sense. Did RBR have a 'Eureka' moment with their 'setup troubles' ? Because Marko himself is surprised and claims they did something to optimize race pace and are shocked to find the gains in one lap pace. What the hell did they do ? Throw away 10 kg of pig iron from the car ? The track was hotter in Q than SQ, mind you.

Also, if you notice in the trace, VER or NOR, one of them, has inverted their driving style into the slow corners.
1,3,4 corners (I'm guessing it's VER since his car had the change - in SQ he was braking late, sacrificing exit and in Q he was braking early, sacrificing entry) in Q are looking the mirror image of the same in SQ.

[AR3-GP]

I have to eat my words after being the biggest advocate of "McLaren is the fastest car now" over the past week. And hereby I do.

It has to continue in Silverstone but it's very possible that we have a new formbook now if Red Bull can transfer this performance to sea level GPs. Red Bull was good at high altitude from 2016-2020...How many championships were won with those cars?

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[chrisc90]

I thought the max delta time was measured between safety car lines?

[AR3-GP]

What impresses me is how high they were running the car. Verstappen's car hardly scraped the ground compared to others.