2012 Exhaust regulations and design possibilites

[raymondu999]

Using suspension as directing vanes?

[Tozza Mazza]

Using suspension as directing vanes?

is that not illegal, as I thought the suspension would be far too low to make contact with the exhaust, and that the exhaust cannot make contact with any bodwork infront of the rear wheel centre line.

[raymondu999]

any SPRUNG bodywork. Suspension is considered UNsprung.

[Tozza Mazza]

any SPRUNG bodywork. Suspension is considered UNsprung.

Yet if the exhaust is too high for the beam wing, surely it is too high for suspension?

[PlatinumZealot]

He is going to put super high suspension arms.. it could work.

[MIKEY_!]

They could have the exhaust blow the winglets around the brake ducts (might be a bit of the tire warmer).
Blowing the RW endplates high enough to reduce drag will not be easy.

It will require chimneys which are very banned.

PS what are the rules regarding the shape of the suspension? Is there something to stop them being turned into little wings?

[Javert]

Let's accept exhaust gases will be pretty useless next year and you have to find downforce in other ways.
Trying to blow the winglets around the brake ducts or using suspension as directing vanes? You could ruin rear flows having time disadvantages.
Ideal exhaust positioning next year? Far enough from the bodywork and far enough from the RW

[rjsa]

The suspension elements are regulated, avoiding turning them into wings. And I´m quite scheptical about throwing flaming exhaust gases into the brake cooling ducts...

Rules where designed to render exhaust useless, I guess no one will come up with a solution next year and we still don´t know where the single turbo will discharge from there on.

[MIKEY_!]

Um no one said into the brake ducts. Into the winglets is what we're talking about. But thanks for clearing up the suspension directing gasses thing.
PS Can the exits be elongated to be like slots or must they be spherical?

[Richard]

How does the exhaust know it has to hit the winglet and not go into the brake duct right next to the winglet?

The other thing is that the winglets are those shaded bits on Scarbs drawing, and they have to be a minimum distance from the exhaust plume. Also, I gather the the exhaust outlet is a mandated shape to avoid any opportunity to create a jet.

[raymondu999]

The turbo would also rob the exhaust of quite some energy...

[wesley123]

Didnt Renault use the exhaust gasses for better tire management in 2008?

[allstaruk08]

i have an idea and will draw it later

[godlameroso]

Pirelli are claiming to have overall grippier tires, as well as more durable rears for next year. Any idea how this might influence design?

[raymondu999]

I'm all for the grippier tyres; but more durable? If anything I remember they'll be moving a step down on the tyres next year (this year's supersofts are next year's softs, this year's softs are next year's mediums, etc) in order to compensate for car development making the cars kinder to the tyres