2016 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai, Apr 15 - 17

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Why do you even bother using some random facts or statistics, Merc showed numerous times in wet qualies they could do a strong first lap whilst opposition needed some more laps

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diego.liv wrote:Why do you even bother using some random facts or statistics, Merc showed numerous times in wet qualies they could do a strong first lap whilst opposition needed some more laps
yeah, probably the reason VET was 2nd in Malaysia 2015 and ROS 3rd

and how many wet races or qualies we had in 2015 (2014 doesn't count 8) )...

of course rain would make things more closer and exciting (mistakes etc.)...

but keep the smarties coming.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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FrukostScones wrote:
diego.liv wrote:Why do you even bother using some random facts or statistics, Merc showed numerous times in wet qualies they could do a strong first lap whilst opposition needed some more laps
yeah, probably the reason VET was 2nd in Malaysia 2015 and ROS 3rd

and how many wet races or qualies we had in 2015 (2014 doesn't count 8) )...

of course rain would make things more closer and exciting (mistakes etc.)...

but keep the smarties coming.
1.Read bold text
2.http://www.formulapassion.it/2015/03/f1 ... ualifiche/

first timed laps
HAM 1:49.834
ROS 1:51.066
VET 1:53.178

Maybe VET was deliberatly going slow, needing 2 laps to build heat in tyres, or maybe slown by the Sauber in front of him, maybe mistakes etc..the benchmark is the fastest of teammates, not ROS time

VET actually stays out for a second consecutive lap, 1:51.617 still 1.8s behind

last timed laps
HAM (mistakes?, etc) doesn't improve, while VET in his 3rd lap does

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^^^

In the end of the day results are what matter.. and if Vettel needs 3 laps to get to his best result, than that is the only thing that matters.

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diego.liv wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:
diego.liv wrote:Why do you even bother using some random facts or statistics, Merc showed numerous times in wet qualies they could do a strong first lap whilst opposition needed some more laps
yeah, probably the reason VET was 2nd in Malaysia 2015 and ROS 3rd

and how many wet races or qualies we had in 2015 (2014 doesn't count 8) )...

of course rain would make things more closer and exciting (mistakes etc.)...

but keep the smarties coming.
1.Read bold text
2.http://www.formulapassion.it/2015/03/f1 ... ualifiche/

first timed laps
HAM 1:49.834
ROS 1:51.066
VET 1:53.178

Maybe VET was deliberatly going slow, needing 2 laps to build heat in tyres, or maybe slown by the Sauber in front of him, maybe mistakes etc..the benchmark is the fastest of teammates, not ROS time

VET actually stays out for a second consecutive lap, 1:51.617 still 1.8s behind

last timed laps
HAM (mistakes?, etc) doesn't improve, while VET in his 3rd lap does
I couldn't care less.

BTW How was VET and RB race pace during the rain at Silverstone 2015?
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

diego.liv
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FrukostScones wrote: I couldn't care less.

BTW How was VET and RB race pace during the rain at Silverstone 2015?
=D> pace was closer, maybe the cause also is wet-ishsetup by Ferr-RB, that would explain their bad pace compared to Williams and their dry-ish setup.

http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... n%20Vettel
lap44 to 52, first 4 laps HAM builds up 5s advantage

RB actually closer than Ferrari, chassis?

ChrisDanger
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Just a reminder this is the 2016 Chinese GP thread, not Who Was Faster In The Wet Last Year.

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The Updates Force India have not given them the gains they wished'. Or they have but the other teams improved as well.
That said unless they can massively develop the Car I fear Force India will be fighting someplace between 8th and 7th best cast scenario 7th and 6th'.
That said this race I see them just beneath the top 10. They just don't have the car to be in the top 10 with Williams, HAAS, Redbull Toro Rosso Ferrari and Mercedes'. Not ti mention Renault who may or may not break into the top 10. Force India and Renault a slightly behind the aforementioned teams'. I hope HAAS and Ferrari don't run into more car troubles like they have been in the last 2 races with only 1 driver finishing for each of them'. Gutierrez Kimi Vetel'. On the side of HAAS Grosjean has driven solidly and in the Ferrari each driver has stepped up to maximise the points potential when the other has car troubles'. That Ferrari Engine clearly improved but still shy from the Mercedes by a shorter margin but still behind'.


I hope Ross all the Luck in the World I wonder if he will be the new Champ with the luck he keeps running into'. (Good).

All I can do is hope Ferrari and Haas don't have car trouble so we can see them entertain and my Force India to break into the top 10'. I'm not Ferrari fan but I would like to see a fight with Mercedes it's good for the sport hereally in this race and not down the season...
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I think the question is not "was the Mercedes the fastest wet weather car last year? " - rather "will it still be?"

We just don't know. We haven't seen it. I'd suggest that a mid race shower could be interesting, might add something.

If not, it seems we have to hope for the opposite: Mercedes mentioned that cooler temperatures suited them in Bahrain, so it would imply some hotter conditions would help the opposition.

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Apparently it is not certain if Alonso will drive in China.

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Gothrek wrote:Apparently it is not certain if Alonso will drive in China.
The press says:
The pneumothorax has healed but not the fractured rib. The pneumothorax was the issue preventing him from racing last round.

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He hasn't been cleared but he also hasn't been tested yet.

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ChrisDanger wrote:
Gothrek wrote:Apparently it is not certain if Alonso will drive in China.
The press says:
The pneumothorax has healed but not the fractured rib. The pneumothorax was the issue preventing him from racing last round.

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He hasn't been cleared but he also hasn't been tested yet.
I thought it was the broken rib that prevented him racing? Because if he would have a crash again, the rib might pierce vital organs?
What I meant to say is that it isn't 100% certain that he will race.

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Gothrek wrote:I thought it was the broken rib that prevented him racing? Because if he would have a crash again, the rib might pierce vital organs?
What I meant to say is that it isn't 100% certain that he will race.
I think that's what was initially reported. But now:
thisisf1.com wrote:“He is now fully recovered from the pneumothorax (collapsed lung), which AS has learned was the main reason for him not racing in Bahrain,” correspondent Manuel Franco added.

Can't find the original source, which is probably on as.com somewhere.

But yes, you're right. It's not certain. Which just means we don't know anything yet. It's really non-news.

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ChrisDanger wrote:
Gothrek wrote:I thought it was the broken rib that prevented him racing? Because if he would have a crash again, the rib might pierce vital organs?
What I meant to say is that it isn't 100% certain that he will race.
I think that's what was initially reported. But now:
thisisf1.com wrote:“He is now fully recovered from the pneumothorax (collapsed lung), which AS has learned was the main reason for him not racing in Bahrain,” correspondent Manuel Franco added.

Can't find the original source, which is probably on as.com somewhere.

But yes, you're right. It's not certain. Which just means we don't know anything yet. It's really non-news.
wait. didn't Alonso said on press in Bahrain that he recovered from pneumothorax but that fractured rib prevented him from racing?

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Can driving these cars aggrevate a fractured rib? It's not like he'll be moving much.
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