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I find the F1 intro way too lenghty with all the drivers etc. I preferred the old intro with the coloured rays.
The F1 logo is annoying and basic, not an improvement.
The soundtrack at the beginning of the race session (the 3 minute one) is really annoying and unneccesary. Could harldy make out commentary of Sky.
I don't see the need to see colours changing when a driver changes position. A up or down arrow at the end was enough. it's just taking attention away during the race.
Indeed, there was first the VSC, and then turned into SC, and it said 'major incident'. Whilst really, there wasn't at all. it's just really stupid.
During qually indeed, i was also highly annoyed.
I didn't hear the swooshes anymore indeed during race, i hope that's permanent for all the sessions.
typefont is annoying to read.
i can't find a single positive thing, it was completely unneccesary and highly irritating. it really hampered the quality and enjoyment of my viewing experience,
to such degree that i honestly was even wondering whether i'm going to enjoy watching F1 like this for the rest of the season.
totally apart from this though, they really need to do something about the onboard camera position, all we see is the halo bar. annoying af.
F1 has taken quite a deep, negative fall like this. despite all things aside, the race itself was pretty awesome. i couldn't really enjoy it though.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"
The drivers order graphic was not working correctly. Update rate was disastrous, which could be seen during the pitstops. Ericcson and Gasly retired which was not shown on the graphic for at least 10 laps. And additionally, as DiogoBrand has already noticed:
The drivers order graphic was not working correctly. Update rate was disastrous, which could be seen during the pitstops. Ericcson and Gasly retired which was not shown on the graphic for at least 10 laps. And additionally, as DiogoBrand has already noticed:
ah yes, i actually forgot about that. i had my head in my hands when i saw that.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"
I loved the coverage this weekend. Too bad the racing sucked, but that’s out of LM’s hands. The new intro worked much better than I thought beforehand. It fits well. The graphics can use a little twitch. Text is sometimes unreadable for me as a colourblind person, and I dislike the fact that times of the highlighted driver are not shown. I think these are minor issues though, that will be fixed in upcoming races.
Most of all, I liked the camera views, that gave a real sense of speed. It felt like the cars were going so much quicker than last year.
The Lastname bug was funny. Not that big of a deal when first time using a new system..
To end on a critical note: halo is a major annoyance. On all angles, especially T-cam. No grid girls is a major let down. New logo is horrific.. It’s as if the sport is owned by ESPN. LM and FIA should be wary of putting F1 fans off...
As I said before, I was the first to criticize their new logo and fonts. But I really enjoyed the presentation this weekend.
Liberty going for an 'entertainment' route rather than the "oh F1 is so serious and boring we must take it seriously and there shouldn't be anything entertaining about it" in my opinion is a great step forward.
Everyone criticized Bernie for saying he only minded about the old fans, and now that someone tries to attract a fresh public, everyone is complaining just as much. If Liberty manages to make F1 attractive to a wider audience, to me that's a huge win. Way better to attract a bigger and more casual audience, than F1 continuing to be the sport that makes you feel different than everyone else for following.
As I said before, I was the first to criticize their new logo and fonts. But I really enjoyed the presentation this weekend.
Liberty going for an 'entertainment' route rather than the "oh F1 is so serious and boring we must take it seriously and there shouldn't be anything entertaining about it" in my opinion is a great step forward.
Everyone criticized Bernie for saying he only minded about the old fans, and now that someone tries to attract a fresh public, everyone is complaining just as much. If Liberty manages to make F1 attractive to a wider audience, to me that's a huge win. Way better to attract a bigger and more casual audience, than F1 continuing to be the sport that makes you feel different than everyone else for following.
I think everyone agrees on the problem, concerns relate to the attempted solutions.
That Bernie and team wouldn't even acknowledge or consider a problem was a huge problem in itself. I'll give Liberty credit for attempting to figure out the problem, it won't stop me from criticizing when I think they're getting it wrong though.
Not their problem, but the halo honestly devalued the weekend for me. I know that's pathetic, I know it shouldn't matter, I hope to dear God that my eyes & brain adjust to this over time... but I found it a huge distraction. It took me out of the immersion. The closest and opposite comparison that I can think of is when Webber took his helmet off, there was just something jarring about the image which really distracted my brain from anything else that was going on.
As I said before, I was the first to criticize their new logo and fonts. But I really enjoyed the presentation this weekend.
Liberty going for an 'entertainment' route rather than the "oh F1 is so serious and boring we must take it seriously and there shouldn't be anything entertaining about it" in my opinion is a great step forward.
Everyone criticized Bernie for saying he only minded about the old fans, and now that someone tries to attract a fresh public, everyone is complaining just as much. If Liberty manages to make F1 attractive to a wider audience, to me that's a huge win. Way better to attract a bigger and more casual audience, than F1 continuing to be the sport that makes you feel different than everyone else for following.
I think everyone agrees on the problem, concerns relate to the attempted solutions.
That Bernie and team wouldn't even acknowledge or consider a problem was a huge problem in itself. I'll give Liberty credit for attempting to figure out the problem, it won't stop me from criticizing when I think they're getting it wrong though.
Not their problem, but the halo honestly devalued the weekend for me. I know that's pathetic, I know it shouldn't matter, I hope to dear God that my eyes & brain adjust to this over time... but I found it a huge distraction. It took me out of the immersion. The closest and opposite comparison that I can think of is when Webber took his helmet off, there was just something jarring about the image which really distracted my brain from anything else that was going on.
I agree 100% about the Halo, although I believe it wasn't Liberty's decision.
TV graphics had all the hallmarks of being untested, with no user group input. It's a portal into the sport and is critical. It's like they have been taking lessons on bad HUD design from EA.
Font, is one of the worst type faces I've seen in media for a very long time, it hurts to read.
Massive amount of information missing from the timing tower, we were lucky to have times displayed. Especially during practice sessions, as those that watch these want a wealth of information.
I found it hard to differentiate the on track name highlight and in pits name dullness. Needs a clear indicator a "P" or name in red, just like MotoGP.
No tyre info. Tyre info with number of laps completed with said tyre set. Just like MotoGP have added this year.
Run number would also be nice, just like MotoGP.
Real time lap time at the bottom of the screen was very obnoxious, mainly due to the new font and box size. As well has displaying the sessions fastest lap in the same box, isn't needed.
Actual sector times need to be on the real time timer, instead of just "S1 S2 S3" and the corresponding sector colour at the bottom.
More live timings needed at bottom of screen during practice sessions. It was always one at a time.
The qualifying "Driver in danger" was hilarious, So over dramatic. 'Muerica.
I found it confusing though as it had a red line at the top of the "Driver in danger" so, to me, that meant the driver was in drop zone. that line needs to indicate the actual drop zone, like it used to, coupled with the red numbered positions.
There was no full lap on board shot, the whole weekend, Usually one every sessions, bar the race.
Ted, in his notebook indicated that they are working on cameras to give better views without halo obstruction. So maybe this is why on board time was reduced, because the view wasn't great of the actual track.
Some of the on board microphone sounded artificially high pitched. P1 or P3 (cant remember which) I think was most evident. On Board with Hulk, and the engine sounded high pitched and almost like Formula E. A few moments later they showed the same on board shot in a replay, and it sounded brilliant. Sounded just as they do on off boards, throaty, load and powerful.
The screen wipe with the obsolete V8 engine sound, was so out of place and very off putting . It just didn't belong at all.
Intro too long, and uninspiring, both audibly and visually.
At least they didn't play music during the race.
What's really funny is how these things are an issue, that this thread even exists. I watch MotoGP and have no complaints, I only have praise, because it's getting better and better, like I say, this year they added tyre info to the screen, awesome. so much information. Clear, easy to read and fully understand what is going on.
What I don't understand is "What was wrong with the old font or the old logo or the old way of doing the graphics and providing the relevant info?" I mean it worked fine didn't it?!
The US coverage was terrible compared to last year. ESPN just used sky coverage and inserted commercial breaks into all of the important moments of the race. I had to watch the highlight reels to actually see some of the best moments. This is the worst coverage I've seen in F1 for a long time. I thought Liberty Media was supposed to be upping its game to NFL quality broadcasts?
But indeed, just two cars packed trackside.
