How important is math knowledge in F1 engineering?

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What do you want man? No you you don't need maths to get an engineering job in F1?!?!

You need either an engineering degree or a ----tonne of experience to even be considered, in some cases you have to have been to the "right" university to keep your CV/resume out of the shredder - even with years of experience.
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Greg Locock wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 00:53
That's right, you don't have to be an absolute genius at maths to be an engineer. To get into the sort of uni that will get you into F1 (say Southhampton Bristol Cambridge Imperial for aero) you just need an A or A* in maths A level, which about 40% of maths A level students get, and preferably Further Maths as well. That's not genius level. But you won't be the one at the back of the class sticking a pencil up your nose either.
Cambridge dont have aerospace / aeronautics engineering

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jjn9128 wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 21:07
What do you want man? No you you don't need maths to get an engineering job in F1?!?!

Just opposite, I wonder how genius engineers have problems with math...because physics/engineering is math

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Sounds to me like you want to be an "F1 Engineer" but don't have any interest in learning maths. It's a tough subject, but a firm grasp of it is crucial to all of the physics done by any of the "F1 Engineers" that you speak of. It's an incredibly diverse group of engineers that work at these teams, and they are all close to, if not some of the best in their fields. You've got to think, these jobs get 100's if not 1000's of applicants. Why would a team take someone who doesn't have an aptitude for the foundational subject to their field?

Yes, most of the work is done using software, but if you think that engineers are just pushing buttons and making performance, you're dead wrong. If that were the case, they would just automate it and save some cash for cost cap. They need thinkers, innovators, and it's tough to think on and innovate things when you don't have the base knowledge to understand why they work.

Have a look on LinkedIn at some people who work in F1, look at their credentials, there's a reason that a massive percentage of them are highly qualified at prestigious schools.

Keep trying with your maths, if you commit, you'll get it. It takes as long as it takes, but getting that base knowledge is so important to be a successful engineer in any field, let alone one as competitive F1.

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Whether math is important for F1 engineering sounds more like a joke rather than a serious question to be honest. It's like asking if basic human physiology is important for medical doctors.

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"Cambridge dont have aerospace / aeronautics engineering"

You better let them know

https://teaching.eng.cam.ac.uk/content/ ... ngineering

and of course this thing never gets used

https://www.dysoncentre.eng.cam.ac.uk/w ... /main-page

They've painted it some time in the last 40 years. Small but fun.

9% of aero guys working in F1 went there, as of 2 years ago.

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Greg Locock wrote:
30 Apr 2024, 01:59
"Cambridge dont have aerospace / aeronautics engineering"

You better let them know

https://teaching.eng.cam.ac.uk/content/ ... ngineering

and of course this thing never gets used

https://www.dysoncentre.eng.cam.ac.uk/w ... /main-page

They've painted it some time in the last 40 years. Small but fun.

9% of aero guys working in F1 went there, as of 2 years ago.
my mistake, Oxford dont have aero, they have mechanical enineering..

Is Cambridge better then Southampton for aero?

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Oxbridge, Oxford brookes, Imperial, Southampton, Cranfield, all good options. All offer Mech eng Bachelors (excluding Cranfield), and then a few of them more specific MSC and PHD titles, such as race aerodynamics, kinematics etc. Go to some uni open days, ask questions, talk to F1 recruitment agencies to see what they say you need. Nothing comes easy in F1, you've gotta chase it.