2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Well, I'm not looking for things to post, but this other one felt pretty interesting.

It's Kevin Magnussen talking about how he, Lewis and Danny Ric liked to be aggressive on the brakes and have struggled the most.

He goes on to.say that the cars prefer to be driven in a V style in the corners because they don't like braking into the corners. It was suggested on here in 2022 that this was a grid wide trait and not just the Mclaren front end and it turns out to be the case.


https://www.planetf1.com/news/kevin-mag ... -struggles
https://www.planetf1.com/news/kevin-mag ... -struggles

This is hugely after the event, and i think everyone largely agrees that the fast cars were the ones that could get the front to work. But still, it feels like closure.
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While I was looking at schedules, dates etc, several things occurred to me;

Wasn't Canada going to be rescheduled to reduce the number of intercontinental trips? I know getting promoters to change "their" date, but isn't pairing Miami and Canada the obvious choice? I know there had been some mention of targeting more favourable Canadian weather, which is so frequently atrocious.

The other big one was the universal outpouring of stress over the Las Vegas and Middle East triple header at the end of the year. This issue is one that can't be levelled at FIA - FOM have the unenviable task of smoothing all parties' arguments, but burnout is going to be more and more relevant with passing seasons. One less than ideal solution is having a lot of job sharing for those who face the longest race weeks - like those who setup and dismantle the operation then race ahead to the next venue. McLaren have built a fantastic team personnel, Zak was saying recently they only "had to lose" about 5% when they restructured. It would be a shame to see many team stalwarts decide the schedule was just too hard for them to stay in the sport.

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the EDGE wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 22:14
pazazamadaz wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 20:41
We've not had any teaser photos of the build of the car yet, have we? 😢
I was thinking this myself at the weekend

Not only that, but we’ve had nothing at all from McLaren recently, other than the incredibly boring ‘unlocked’ series on YouTube

I’m guessing the head of the fan engagement team left… and was replaced by a bot

Please McLaren… if your listening… bring back the fun
I'm pretty sure every team has had to cut back on behind-the-scenes content because F1 wants to reserve it for Drive to Survive.

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90feet wrote:
07 Jan 2025, 15:36
the EDGE wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 22:14
pazazamadaz wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 20:41
We've not had any teaser photos of the build of the car yet, have we? 😢
I was thinking this myself at the weekend

Not only that, but we’ve had nothing at all from McLaren recently, other than the incredibly boring ‘unlocked’ series on YouTube

I’m guessing the head of the fan engagement team left… and was replaced by a bot

Please McLaren… if your listening… bring back the fun
I'm pretty sure every team has had to cut back on behind-the-scenes content because F1 wants to reserve it for Drive to Survive.
It's that or teams are not releasing much due to how Liberty is marketing F1 ahead of the 2025 season.

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taperoo2k wrote:
07 Jan 2025, 22:43
90feet wrote:
07 Jan 2025, 15:36
the EDGE wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 22:14


I was thinking this myself at the weekend

Not only that, but we’ve had nothing at all from McLaren recently, other than the incredibly boring ‘unlocked’ series on YouTube

I’m guessing the head of the fan engagement team left… and was replaced by a bot

Please McLaren… if your listening… bring back the fun
I'm pretty sure every team has had to cut back on behind-the-scenes content because F1 wants to reserve it for Drive to Survive.
It's that or teams are not releasing much due to how Liberty is marketing F1 ahead of the 2025 season.
Maybe, but I’m talking about their social media stuff too, we used to the drivers doing funny stuff for their sponsors, and cartoons, and other things that you actually wanted to watch. No we get ‘unlocked’ far too serious for my liking

At least we have the lollipop man comics to watch during the race season! They’re already good for a laugh. Oscar!

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Team discussing the balance between 25 and 26 development.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... /10686928/
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"At the moment, the focus for 2025 is everything," Houldey said. "And actually that's not just about the car, that's about the whole team. We know that the car can go faster. We can develop the car further.

"We know as a team every area can find ways of being more effective, more efficient, generating more and more performance in their own individual groups as well. So 2025 for us is the same as any other year, and an opportunity to show what McLaren are now capable of doing."
This optimism and confidence is very much against the norm for McLaren these last couple of years. I guess winning the constructors has boosted everyone's confidence but I do hope they remain with both feet on the ground and acknowledge the circmustances of the 2024 season in full.

The car was good but they were somewhat flattered by RedBull and Ferrari running into massive development problems throughout the year. Aside from that, there was unrealized potential in the MCL38 after Miami. By their own admission, the development curve was expected to continue at a similar pace as it started with the Austria package back in 2023.

That did not materialize for whatever reason and the car last season did not see major developments beyond the Miami package. The upgrade sheets were deceiving because while in terms of quantity it might have seemed like they were continuing to bring major developments to the car, in reality most of those were small changes. Either suspension fairings or brake duct winglets or minor front wing edge tweaks.

I am pretty sure that McLaren is well aware of everything though and I would expect Andrea Stella at the very least to recognize the "danger" from rivals (Ferrari in particular, who showed really high development rate towards the end of the season once their issues were fixed) and keep the team humbled and focused on the job.

Assuming that to be true, this confidence kind of makes you assume that they must have found something new or major when it comes to development potential that will allow them to make a big step over the MCL38. Unfortunately, you never know what the rivals are cooking during the winter in Formula 1, so the first couple of races this year will be really interesting.

Pretty much all of the top teams are aiming high and are confident in their chances. Obviously, only one of them will take the glory in the end.

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mwillems wrote:
05 Jan 2025, 21:07
https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-z ... axe-moment

Zak explaining why he didn't keep Seidl, amongst other things.
Unusual honesty and openness. Rarely do we get these kind of interviews.

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Is he replacing someone, or is this a new role created to take some responsibilities away from Singh?

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90feet wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 17:12
Is he replacing someone, or is this a new role created to take some responsibilities away from Singh?
In the press release for Will Courtenay, it was said that's he'd be reporting into Singh, so I don't think so.
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90feet wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 17:12
Is he replacing someone, or is this a new role created to take some responsibilities away from Singh?
Sounds like a new role meant to support Singh

McLaren just published some content today featuring Singh so he's def not going anywhere

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"Taking some responsibilities away from Singh" doesn't mean firing the dude and I'm really not sure why you both interpreted it as that. "A new role intended to support Singh" is exactly what I meant - taking some of his workload ("responsibilities") and shifting it to another person.