myurr wrote:And yet the 'Is McLaren really off the pace' thread is allowed to live despite it being a bashing thread devoid of much intelligent discussion.Giblet wrote:I can appreciate why you made the observation and understand that what you see is not rooted in nothing. However, it is a basic rule in society and law, that you never accuse without proof, and these are if not serious, rather large and sweeping allegations about a site that to me has seen for the most part impartial.bean wrote:"the burden of proof is on you"
I'm sorry but I don't have the energy or the inclination to trawl through various threads to provide proof.
Even just a couple examples would give you a bit of a foothold. I still stand by what I think, that more Alonso and Ferrari bashing threads are started than almost anyone else, so they will be fiery and go in circles and get closed. Similar topics include Max Mosley sex life and Briatores moral imbalances.
Rarely is intelligent discussion to be had in a 'bashing' thread.
I love this site, am grateful that it exists, and think that overall the mods do a great job. However I do feel some threads are closed prematurely, and can see at least some correlation between criticism of Alonso or Ferrari and how quickly a thread is shut down. Perhaps holding some of these threads open from time to time would give those that want to bash each other a place to do so and stop them from polluting other threads quite so much.
I disagree with most of what segedunum, for example, says - but I would defend his right to say it as much as my right to reply. It would be good to have the occasional thread where this is tolerated so that we could save the car threads, in particular, for more objective technical discussion.
So ... what are you proposing? Maybe there is a compromise somewhere ...
There could be some merit in a "bashing" subforum with slightly more relaxed rules (and a less incendiary name), but we would need to keep those threads WELL AWAY from the home page.
Give people a place where they can argue and b!tch as much as they like, then the rest of us can take or leave it as we please. Oh, wait, isn't that meant to be the Autosport.com forum?