Ferrari SF-24

[vorticism]

Looks like they are still using the backwards rear lower control arm.

[Vinlarr89]

Was there talk of the rod moving?

[hollus]

Posts talking about gained tenths and relative pace have been deleted or will be shortly. The posters got (get) the text back, you are welcome to post them in the team thread or, perhaps better, the race threads.
As usual every year at this time:
a) Welcome to all the newbies!
b) No lap times, no track or championship position, no winning and losing in the car threads. Only hardware here, winning and losing goes in the team and race threads. Thanks.

Lots of posts seem to start focusing on faster-than or slower-than a certain blue car...
It is understandable, but NOT in the car threads and please, not Red Bull everywhere!
Team threads and race threads are sooo much better for that.
Let's focus before a 100 pages of messy intertwined stuff gets posted?

[Vanja #66]

Can anyone tell if steering arm really is ahead and above the lower front suspension arm? Just a sanity check

[ing.]

Can anyone tell if steering arm really is ahead and above the lower front suspension arm? Just a sanity check

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

According to this, yes:
https://x.com/raceng2/status/1757440976 ... 5rN71eTA2g

[ing.]

https://i.postimg.cc/nVWyLhTW/racefansd ... P-3645.jpg

Looks like they are still using the backwards rear lower control arm.

Rear upper “wishbone” still looks to be separate leading and trailing links, yes?

[FDD]

Can anyone tell if steering arm really is ahead and above the lower front suspension arm? Just a sanity check

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg

I think that it is clear from the pic

[Vanja #66]

According to this, yes:
https://x.com/raceng2/status/1757440976 ... 5rN71eTA2g

I think that it is clear from the pic
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 6.jpg.webp

Indeed, thanks gents! Definitely a feature of RB18 originally, something AMR23 had even last year. SF23 went in a different direction, they aligned steering with suspension arm, I'd say in a pursuit of lowest possible drag. It does look like suspension arm design is important as a series of flow conditioners downstream of FW upwash. I would not be surprised if this was one of the big aero limitations of the front end on SF23, seemingly solved now on SF24.

[FDD]

According to this, yes:
https://x.com/raceng2/status/1757440976 ... 5rN71eTA2g

I think that it is clear from the pic
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 6.jpg.webp

Indeed, thanks gents! Definitely a feature of RB18 originally, something AMR23 had even last year. SF23 went in a different direction, they aligned steering with suspension arm, I'd say in a pursuit of lowest possible drag. It does look like suspension arm design is important as a series of flow conditioners downstream of FW upwash. I would not be surprised if this was one of the big aero limitations of the front end on SF23, seemingly solved now on SF24.

Regarding the arms like aero elements, flow conditioners, since you mention AMR23 and SF24 going in the same direction with steering/suspension arm alignment here is one picture with flow viz on AMR24 at suspension arms region.
I do not know if it is ok to put AMR24 pictur in SF24 thread but I think it is in context of the discussion.

[Vanja #66]

Regarding the arms like aero elements, flow conditioners, since you mention AMR23 and SF24 going in the same direction with steering/suspension arm alignment here is one picture with flow viz on AMR24 at suspension arms region.
I do not know if it is ok to put AMR24 pictur in SF24 thread but I think it is in context of the discussion.

https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 7.jpg.webp

Indeed, some of the macro effects will be the same for both cars. If we look closely at the photo you posted earlier, there are a lot of similarities around suspension arms between SF24 and AMR24 - as expected.

I think that it is clear from the pic

[Chuckjr]

Does anyone know about how much faster in percentage the air is traveling at the compression points in the floor to create the Bernoulli effect? 10%? 40%? 60%? I’ve no clue. I was just curious the kinds of airspeeds they are dealing with in the floor tunnel compression phase.

[Xyz22]

[jambuka]

Read somewhere that the 066/12 engine has about 25hp more than last year's 066/10 engine. Is this credible ?

[gordonthegun]

Read somewhere that the 066/12 engine has about 25hp more than last year's 066/10 engine. Is this credible ?

It is possible to work on the ICE only for reliability reasons.
I too read on the "Scuderia Ferrari App" that the engine (ICE) is now 066/12, so apparently they worked on it as last year was 066/10, but 25 hp in search and as a result of greater reliability seems too much to me.

[gordonthegun]

Does anyone know about how much faster in percentage the air is traveling at the compression points in the floor to create the Bernoulli effect? 10%? 40%? 60%? I’ve no clue. I was just curious the kinds of airspeeds they are dealing with in the floor tunnel compression phase.

You ask a very difficult question that is likely to be known only by a few persons in a team.
Using intuition alone, I would be led to think no more than 20%.

Maybe we could calculate it ourselves if we knew: 1) the total downforce at a given speed, 2) the speed of the car, and considering that the downforce created by the floor is about 60% of the total.