2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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GrizzleBoy
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Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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If the stewards couldnt call Saudi '21 a brake test and were probably under intense pressure to hand out the penalty they did, I have a hard time seeing anything come from this whatsoever.

Stig14
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Correct decision by the stewards IMO - Fernando (claims that he) tried to be clever and focus on the exit and got it badly wrong but was still erratic driving. The penalty would have dropped him completely out of the points another day so all seems fair.

KimiRai
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Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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Ridiculous

TheGkbrk
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Very

KimiRai
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AMG.Tzan
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I’m laughing with Alonso 😂😂

What an embarrassing act! Pretty dirty! He has been doing these things these last few years like the brake test with Hamilton at AbuDhabi last year! Whenever he knows he can’t defend he does such kind of moves!

And the funny thing is that most of the f1 paddock call him “Alonso the clever fox” for these mvoes! Had Hamilton done the same thing the paddock would have been on fire right now talking of how dirty he is…
"The only rule is there are no rules" - Aristotle Onassis

Mchamilton
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This penalty is entirely justified, if not too lenient. His claim of trying to get a better exit is clearly utter b*llocks. In these cars, lifting 5m earlier is enough to get a cleaner exit nevermind 100m with some brakes. And what a stupid point on the circuit to try such a thing, of Russel would have made the corner the pass would have been a slam dunk and Alonso would have looked a tool for making it happen.

Cs98
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Completely justified penalty, in fact it's too light considering the consequence. That corner is a death trap the way the cars bounce back out.

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peewon
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Hamilton literally pit maneuvered someone off at 180mph, received a 10 seconds penalty. This being 20 seconds is ridiculous. If Hamilton ever got a 20 second penalty for lifting early in a corner by a Steward with the history that Herbert has with Alonso, every one from reverend Al Sharpton to teamLH would have cried bloody murder and Sky and BBC would have made sure everyone heard it.

Tzk
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Cs98 wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:28
Completely justified penalty, in fact it's too light considering the consequence.
Afaik penalties are handed without considering the consequences. At least that's the official stance.

Rikhart
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It's the car they say, easy to win they say, look what happens when we don't have a Verstappen driving it...

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Juzh
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Vanja #66 wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 08:51
Vanja #66 wrote:
19 Mar 2024, 20:08
This might be the most challenging race for RB until at least Imola and possibly even beyond.
Judging by Perez' pace, this was terrible from RB. I'm getting good at these calls :mrgreen:
Perez was slow last year, and he was even slower this year. He just doesnt get this track. At the very least Verstappen would fight for win, so there's be some semblance of a race. Real shame Norris couldn't at least get into Lec's DRS to make it more interesting.

As for alonso, the whole thing is rather obvious. Gotta laugh at those supposed throttle problems :lol:

Ben1980
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peewon wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:28
Hamilton literally pit maneuvered someone off at 180mph, received a 10 seconds penalty. This being 20 seconds is ridiculous. If Hamilton ever got a 20 second penalty for lifting early in a corner by a Steward with the history that Herbert has with Alonso, every one from reverend Al Sharpton to teamLH would have cried bloody murder and Sky and BBC would have made sure everyone heard it.


Penalties have been toughened. Surely people know that by now.

Cs98
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Tzk wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:31
Cs98 wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:28
Completely justified penalty, in fact it's too light considering the consequence.
Afaik penalties are handed without considering the consequences. At least that's the official stance.
I never bought that, in racing or the law in general. Take the famous Grosjean Spa crash, an initial misjudgement caused a massive pile-up. There's no race ban without the full consequence of that mistake. Or take any other mistake in life, if it hurts someone else you are usually in more trouble than if it doesn't, no matter the intent. Now in this case this action was very dangerous (specifically due to the location and situation), that danger materialised with the crash and where GR ended up, and the action was intentional.

Dunlay
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Cs98 wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:42
Tzk wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:31
Cs98 wrote:
24 Mar 2024, 11:28
Completely justified penalty, in fact it's too light considering the consequence.
Afaik penalties are handed without considering the consequences. At least that's the official stance.
I never bought that, in racing or the law in general. Take the famous Grosjean Spa crash, an initial misjudgement caused a massive pile-up. There's no race ban without the full consequence of that mistake. Or take any other mistake in life, if it hurts someone else you are usually in more trouble than if it doesn't, no matter the intent. Now in this case this action was very dangerous (specifically due to the location and situation), that danger materialised with the crash and where GR ended up, and the action was intentional.
Agreed. Penalties should be enforced considering the outcomes of the incident. That's why human beings are stewards, not some machine taking decisions.