2012 Japanese GP - Suzuka

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Morteza
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Thank you Raptor22 and beelsebob :)

The thing is I got involved in F1 from 2007, and that was the first year since MSC's retirement. Forgive my lack of knowledge about the feeling of those years
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raymondu999
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Vettel reprimanded, but keeps pole
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here is the link for pic of the situation.https://twitter.com/ESPNF1/status/25449 ... 68/photo/1
vettel's was in alonso's racing line at worst place during alonso's braking.
vettel cheating?

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yip clearly Alonso's box if dirty tricks at work again. its clear from the image he came upon Vettel at the wrong time and decided to milk it.

remember him brake testing people a few years back when at Renault and the crybaby acting when Schumi "parked" at Rascasse.

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beelsebob wrote:Yee gods, RedBull have found something... Looks like we'll have a German WDC 3 years running :(
I would not actually mind that, but it is much too early if you look at the reliability and the the cushion that Alonso has. I think even if Vettel makes it a clean start/finish race and Webber manages to ride him shotgun Alonso has a pretty good chance to make it on the podium. Suzuka has always been the most ideal track for Newey's creations and you have to expect it to suit the RB8 more than the other five tracks to come.
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Nando wrote:
adam2003 wrote:
Nando wrote:I think Mclaren are sand bagging to be honest.
ferrari looks twitchy.
With hardly many races left no point sandbagging they need to get out their and get on with it now.
It´s only Practice. Why risk binning the car like Schumacher and Di Resta when you can work on your race setup and general balance of the car?

I think it will be similar to Singapore. RBR looked super strong all weekend then BAM, Hamilton untouchable.
Thats fair enough, but a driver has to find the limit he doesnt want to come qualifying and not sure how hard can push, Schumacher used to spin lots back in early days but in race was on form. if you dont crash your not pushing

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vettel got away with somethin JEV was punished for at the same event,and it was against his main competitor.
if he got reprimend that it means judges foung him guilty .
there was crying and river of tears from horner,marko and vettel in that room with judges, that is why it took them two hours to take decision.
what a double standards.

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Vettel has a good number of investigations and most of them when he is in a good position. Last race he was at few milimeters to say goodbye to the championship when he stopped the car before the safety car leave. Button was virtually crashing him and this would be surely an Alonso P1 and Vettel retired.

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It seems now as if the stage is set for a third successive title for Vettel, with Alonso having an outside chance. Many expected the track would suit the Ferrari better than the RB, but seems Ferrari is around half a second behind the RB. Even if Alonso makes it to the podium, I guess he'll still lose 10 points to Vettel. And to make it worse Hamilton is starting 9th. His WDC hopes are getting slimmer race by race.

The upcoming tracks may not suit the RB so well as it might for the McLaren, but unless Ferrari gets some real performance from the car, RB is still going to be ahead of them.

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And here almost everyone thought it would be a front-row lockout by Macca. What the heck just happened back there? The lean & agile-footed Sauber once again schools the top-heavy & lumbering Merc on how to get the most out of their resources and operate a competent F1 team for less than half their budget. Shame MAS couldn't pull off a clean, final run -- he seemed to have the upper-hand over ALO on this driver's track for most of the FPs & Quali. BUT over HAM -- wonder if this is gonna be the trend for the remaining races, what with HAM already on the way out and Macca's title chances reduced to remote after the Singapore DNF?

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if this isn't blocking then what is? Vettel got away because of cheap politics!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ8cnvSFQLo[/youtube]

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banibhusan
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Hamilton admitted that he made a wrong set-up choice. Not again!!!

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radosav wrote:if this isn't blocking then what is? Vettel got away because of cheap politics!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ8cnvSFQLo
And people say it's (F)errari (I)nternatioal (A)ssistance.. :lol:

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ArchAngel wrote:And here almost everyone thought it would be a front-row lockout by Macca. What the heck just happened back there? The lean & agile-footed Sauber once again schools the top-heavy & lumbering Merc on how to get the most out of their resources and operate a competent F1 team for less than half their budget. Shame MAS couldn't pull off a clean, final run -- he seemed to have the upper-hand over ALO on this driver's track for most of the FPs & Quali. BUT over HAM -- wonder if this is gonna be the trend for the remaining races, what with HAM already on the way out and Macca's title chances reduced to remote after the Singapore DNF?
Massa had a very clean lap but he said that from the beggining of the lap he had no grip. He couldn't explain why the Used soft tyres worked better than the New ones of the second lap. Another Pirelli mistery...

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I don't see anything worth a punishment in the situation. When you chose only one run late in the session you knowingly take the risk of something going wrong. Raikkonen's spin disrupted the planned lap run of the rest and it's difficult to know when and where someone will catch you. Alonso gambled, didn't succeed, and then sought advantage in asking for penalty. Again.
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