Future of Schumacher

[Raptor22]

lets see what transpires.

Ferrari making it clear they have not signed Massa yet. DIResta and Hulkenberg in the running...
No mention of Schumacher could be indicative that he's a front runner for the seat.

[zeph]

Oh ok, so lets not take into account the dominance over his team mate since mid 2011 and lets not take into account DNFs due to the team (starting mid 2011), lets take a myopic view of the facts to suit your assertion so no one can claim you make no sense and are delusional if you think he's not as fast if not faster than Nico since mid 2011?
Gotcha!

Agreed mate +100, I just laugh on how much educated some people are on this site. Very accurate with the comparisons and they talk facts. Probably they just miss to count the DNFs or probably they do it on purpose. Either way its hilarious how much nonsense they write!

Right, I make no sense and am delusional? Nonsense? The fact that you guys need to resort to this type of adolescent antics just goes to show you have nothing of substance to support your position. Feel free to throw the facts right back in my face.

Blah blah, faster than Rosberg, blah blah, DNF, blah blah, bad luck, blah blah, team let him down...etc.etc.

I think Mercedes is absolutely right not to renew his contract. He is the most successful driver of all time, that is one fact no one can argue with. But no matter how you try to spin it, his comeback has simply not been a success. Why is that so hard to accept for you?

[MSC07-JCGX]

Oh ok, so lets not take into account the dominance over his team mate since mid 2011 and lets not take into account DNFs due to the team (starting mid 2011), lets take a myopic view of the facts to suit your assertion so no one can claim you make no sense and are delusional if you think he's not as fast if not faster than Nico since mid 2011?
Gotcha!

Agreed mate +100, I just laugh on how much educated some people are on this site. Very accurate with the comparisons and they talk facts. Probably they just miss to count the DNFs or probably they do it on purpose. Either way its hilarious how much nonsense they write!

Right, I make no sense and am delusional? Nonsense? The fact that you guys need to resort to this type of adolescent antics just goes to show you have nothing of substance to support your position. Feel free to throw the facts right back in my face.

Blah blah, faster than Rosberg, blah blah, DNF, blah blah, bad luck, blah blah, team let him down...etc.etc.

I think Mercedes is absolutely right not to renew his contract. He is the most successful driver of all time, that is one fact no one can argue with. But no matter how you try to spin it, his comeback has simply not been a success. Why is that so hard to accept for you?

so lets see, when rosberg is faster michaels needs to retire, when michael is faster yeah what ever. DNF's bad luck team let him down why it sounds like hamilton has no excuse then, and you clearly have no passion for racing, he's performing at a high level still. yes statically rosberg has been outperforming michael but michael has 7 more world titles. last year others crashed into him if not he would've beaten rosberg and this year he would've been in front of rosberg if it werent for the teams slack performance, and in quali twice he was going well but oh drs failure and we ran out of time so you can't set a q3 time, and his 1st sector time went purple nice one you 3 pointed star.

[spadeflush]

+ 1 ^^
I wonder if Andrew Benson is making some of the comments here.

on topic: The longer Ferrari are taking in announcing Massa/his replacement the bigger seem the chances of MSC negotiating with the Scuderia. I mean, there's just no way that there hasn't been a contact. The suspected ego issues between Monte and MSC would not come into the way of something this big. They are both good businessmen, this is what they have done all their lives. Atleast thats my take on it.

[zeph]

I am sorry. I did not know I had landed in a hardcore fan thread, my bad.

So in conclusion, you all feel that Schumacher's last three seasons have been good enough to warrant continuation?


That's fine by me. I think differently, but for your sake I hope he lands a decent seat for next season and proves me wrong by bagging his 8th. G'day.

[Vasconia]

Right, I make no sense and am delusional? Nonsense? The fact that you guys need to resort to this type of adolescent antics just goes to show you have nothing of substance to support your position. Feel free to throw the facts right back in my face.

Blah blah, faster than Rosberg, blah blah, DNF, blah blah, bad luck, blah blah, team let him down...etc.etc.

I think Mercedes is absolutely right not to renew his contract. He is the most successful driver of all time, that is one fact no one can argue with. But no matter how you try to spin it, his comeback has simply not been a success. Why is that so hard to accept for you?

So you measure the success of a comeback without taking into account the car or the team...

Now, lets speak about the results of Mercedes as a team, a perfect example of an epic failure. What do you expect from a brand like Mercedes? fast and reliable cars, what they have offered? lack of pace, and what is worse, absolutely lack of reliability, mainly in Shumacher´s car.

The funny thing will be to see how Lewis reacts if next season´s car gives him half ot the problmems that Michael has suffered this year.

[schumifan]

lewis or no other driver could handle it like mike - not top driver that is or a driver that has felt what it like to run at the top for a while

[Vasconia]

Michael is not an stupid guy, well he believed all the false promises that Ross gave to him, but he is not stupid. If he has had so many doubts to sign a new deal with Mercedes it was simply because he didnt like what he was seeing inside the team. Someday we will know all the rubbish around MGP, and more than one will be surprised/shocked.

Schumacher is the most commited driver I have ever seen so there must be some serious reasons, and his driving ability with 43 years is not one of them.

What an emotional post, spoken like a true fan. Just for perspective:

2010 WDC
7. Rosberg 142 pts.
9. Schumacher 72 pts.

2011 WDC
7. Rosberg 89 pts.
8. Schumacher 76 pts.

2012 WDC
7. Rosberg 93 pts.
12. Schumacher 43 pts.

And that is just points, over the last three seasons he has made some pretty rookie mistakes and some desperately questionable moves.

For anybody not irrationally biased it has been clear that Schumacher today is not the same he was 8 years ago. I applaud him for coming out of retirement with little to gain and everything to lose, but you'd have to be pretty blindsighted not see the obvious.

It's time to quit. Even if Sauber wants him, he should just accept the inevitable and look forward to the next chapter.

I dont see the relation between what I have posted and your comments. Emotional? please!! its too early to read such stupid comments.(sorry to say this but its what I think)

If you are so interested in data take a look to the DNF and in general who has finished ahead of who when both have finished the race.

I am tremendously tired of reading such empty and senseless comments such "your say this because you are a fanboy". Please, no one is saying that his comeback has been a success, we are only saying that he is still fast and he can give us some good races if he continues, my godness!, he is nearly 44, I dont expect to see the best Schumi anymore, but we can enjoy a good Schumi, and even now he is great to see him driving, give him a car with good pace and at least with a minium reliabilty and he has shown the he can still deliver a good perfomance.

[snoop1050]

I am sorry. I did not know I had landed in a hardcore fan thread, my bad.

So in conclusion, you all feel that Schumacher's last three seasons have been good enough to warrant continuation?


That's fine by me. I think differently, but for your sake I hope he lands a decent seat for next season and proves me wrong by bagging his 8th. G'day.

yet people are happy for rosberg to continue?
out qualified by michael
when both cars finished michael is on average 3 places ahead
rosberg is fortunate michael had the retirement from 3rd in aus , hit by grosjean in malaysia when he was 3rd? , hit by grosjean in monaco , merc didnt fit his wheel properly in china.

or the scoreboard would look very different

[Richard]

This thread was opened to contain the inevitable flood of emotive posts about Schumacher on his departure from Mercredes AMG . It has served that purpose.

Long term users of the site will be aware that driver conversations inevitably head into fanboy oblivion and closure. The last few pages have followed this pattern.

Thread closed. Lets get back to technical matters.