2020 Sakhir Grand Prix - Sakhir, Dec 04 - 06

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:28
Bottas is choking!

The threat of George Russell is real!
Then Lewis should be choking as well.
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proteus wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:28
Bottas is choking!

The threat of George Russell is real!
Then Lewis should be choking as well.
Lol Lewis loves the pressure, Bottas has never seemed to enjoy it!
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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:41
Hoffman900 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:31
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:28
Bottas is choking!

The threat of George Russell is real!
You can’t be serious. See my post above about FP1. George is a talent but I think Valteri has him by .1-.2 in qualifying, which on a track this short, could be the difference in 4 positions.

*.1-.2 here is like .3-.4 at a longer track.
Can you prove this time gap? How do you know he's 0.1-0.2 faster? Just because he drives a Mercedes and George a Williams? What a joke!
For car familiarity.

Also, I don’t know how grown men can be so emotionally invested in young rich guys, who most would find insufferable if they had to spend any time around.

Being F1Technical, I am more interested in seeing what another driver does jumping from the worst car in the field to the fastest.

You’re going to see closer gaps. That’s just virtue of a shorter lap. That half a second Max has over Alex is going to be more like .1-.2 here.
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Predictably Russell goes to the top. Predictably RB is still fast. Surprisingly the gaps are bigger than I thought they'd be.
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godlameroso wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:46
Predictably Russell goes to the top. Predictably RB is still fast. Surprisingly the gaps are bigger than I thought they'd be.

Again, FP1. People are testing set ups for next year, saving the drivetrain, testing some strategies or mapping, etc.

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proteus wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:28
Bottas is choking!

The threat of George Russell is real!
Then Lewis should be choking as well.
This track is an unusual track so just refering to this event. :wink:

So it seems this is Bottas' weakness; he is not good in psychological situations. Here we see ypung George keeping calm, taking his time and keeping the car on the black stuff, while Bottas makes a mess of it. I have defended Bottas and will continue to do so, but now I know he is a bit weak psychologically.
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Hoffman900 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:45
Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:41
Hoffman900 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:31


You can’t be serious. See my post above about FP1. George is a talent but I think Valteri has him by .1-.2 in qualifying, which on a track this short, could be the difference in 4 positions.

*.1-.2 here is like .3-.4 at a longer track.
Can you prove this time gap? How do you know he's 0.1-0.2 faster? Just because he drives a Mercedes and George a Williams? What a joke!
For car familiarity.

Also, I don’t know how grown men can be so emotionally invested in young rich guys, who most would find insufferable if they had to spend any time around.

Being F1Technical, I am more interested in seeing what another driver does jumping from the worst car in the field to the fastest.

You’re going to see closer gaps. That’s just virtue of a shorter lap. That half a second Max has over Alex is going to be more like .1-.2 here.
Fair point. I thought you're implying Bottas is faster than Russell.
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Two Rookies are here. So cut off FITand AIK and thats half a second gained.
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Hoffman900 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:48
godlameroso wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:46
Predictably Russell goes to the top. Predictably RB is still fast. Surprisingly the gaps are bigger than I thought they'd be.

Again, FP1. People are testing set ups for next year, saving the drivetrain, testing some strategies or mapping, etc.
Short lap, easy to get lots of laps and the high statistical sample starts to paint a clear picture. Lots of laps is good, it increases the likelyhood that we get a normal distribution.
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What I want to see more than anything, is how well George does on the long runs!
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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:41
Hoffman900 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:31
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:28
Bottas is choking!

The threat of George Russell is real!
You can’t be serious. See my post above about FP1. George is a talent but I think Valteri has him by .1-.2 in qualifying, which on a track this short, could be the difference in 4 positions.

*.1-.2 here is like .3-.4 at a longer track.
Can you prove this time gap? How do you know he's 0.1-0.2 faster? Just because he drives a Mercedes and George a Williams? What a joke!
Well, you yourself pretty arbitrarily stated 'Bottas should beat Russell by 3 tenths minimum in qualifying'. If you're attacking another poster for writing down a few timings, where did you pull that from?

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You'd be forgiven to think the Merc drivers have swapped helmets.
"Sebastian there's very, you're a member of a very select few.. Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio.. VETTEL!"

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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:59
You'd be forgiven to think the Merc drivers have swapped helmets.
Wow, Commentators said the exact same thing!!!!
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dans79 wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 16:58
What I want to see more than anything, is how well George does on the long runs!
Low 58's vs Verstappen's high 57's.
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