F1 Quiz Chain

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William Hill died while piloting his aeroplane. I don't know about the fearless part

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Get the load of this one... :shock:

One engine manufacturer once stepped back almost twenty years in time for the specific cylinder configuration
and layout of their new F1 engine.

Xplain the two different F1 engines and the cars they served in?
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Ferrari V12 1,5 L and 3,3 L respectively.

Ooops, how about Cosworth V8 was last raced in a Tyrell 1985 and again 2006 in Williams.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Ferrari V12 1,5 L and 3,3 L respectively.
Ferrari yes, but not those two engines.

Between these two there was 20 years:

Type: Tipo 255C
Year: 1969
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 60° vee
Capacity: 2989
RPM: 11000
Power: 436 bhp

http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/244

Type: Tipo 035/5
Year: 1989
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 65° vee
Capacity: 3497
RPM: 13000
Power: 660 bhp

http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/638

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manchild wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Ferrari V12 1,5 L and 3,3 L respectively.
Ferrari yes, but not those two engines. Between those two there was only 13 years gap.

Type: Tipo 212
Year: 1951-1952
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 60° vee
Capacity: 2562
RPM: 7500
Power: 200 bhp

Type: Tipo 207
Year: 1964-1965
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 180° vee
Capacity: 1489
RPM: 11500
Power: 225 bhp

Between these two there was 20 years:

Type: Tipo 255C
Year: 1969
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 60° vee
Capacity: 2989
RPM: 11000
Power: 436 bhp

http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/244

Type: Tipo 035/5
Year: 1989
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 65° vee
Capacity: 3497
RPM: 13000
Power: 660 bhp

http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/638
between the 1,5 and the 3,something there were obviously 24 years. but I don't care so much. Ferrari had so many V12 and flat 12s which can be considered special V12 that it is very difficult to distinguish. I have some money on Cosworth as well. :wink:
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WhiteBlue wrote:between the 1,5 and the 3,something there were obviously 24 years. but I don't care so much. Ferrari had so many V12 and flat 12s which can be considered special V12 that it is very difficult to distinguish. I have some money on Cosworth as well. :wink:
Nope, not from last V12 to "new old" V12 congfig. http://www.allf1.info/engines/ferrari.php

Type: Tipo 125
Year: 1950-1952
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 60° vee
Capacity: 1498
RPM: 7500
Power: 315 bhp

Type: Tipo 218
Year: 1966
Number of cylinders: 12
Configuration: 60° vee
Capacity: 2989
RPM: 10000
Power: 360 bhp
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With "specific cylinder configuration and layout", I also included displacement, which should be almost the same.
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xpensive wrote:With "specific cylinder configuration and layout", I also included displacement, which should be almost the same.
So did anybody hit your intended config yet?
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No, number of cylinders, vee-angle and displacement must match.
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I think those are Ferrari's engines from Ferrari 312 (1966) and 412T2 (1995)

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Not the same vee-angle I'm afraid, timbo.
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Are they the Dino 156 of 1960 that was fitted in the Ferrari 156
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and the Tipo 021 that was used on the 126C?
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Both are V6's at 120º, the former had a capacity of 1477cm3 and the later 1496cm3 -also, the one from the 80's was turbocharged...

To be honest, the spirit of Xpensive seems to have possessed Manchild, who gave away the answer. Maybe Manchild may be considered the winner? It would be fun to see how fast Manchild answers the riddles from Xpensive and vice-versa... :wink:
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wow, well done dumrick

I was looking at Ferrari V6 as well but did not spot the Dino156 and the Tipo021.
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Bravo dumrick! Indeed what I meant with "specific cylinder configuration and layout", Gilles had a little more power in 1981 than Phil Hill in 1961 though.

The 126C debuted at Imola in 1980, hence "almost 20 years".

Your go.
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Ok, then.

Which kind of Formula 1 were these cars eligible for, having this model won a championship in 1973?

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