2014-2020 Formula One 1.6l V6 turbo engine formula

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I recon he forgot a "0". He probably means 1,660NM. But how can the torque figure be higher when the horsepower is lower and at higher RPM's??

EDIT: It was 1,066NM. Still seems way too high.

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Holm86 wrote:I recon he forgot a "0". He probably means 1,660NM. But how can the torque figure be higher when the horsepower is lower and at higher RPM's??

EDIT: It was 1,066NM. Still seems way too high.
I think he means 1,66 kNm, or 1660 Nm, but at 8500 Rpm that means a Power of exactly 2000 Hp.

I doubt it, even from a BMW.
He meant 1066NM. Look at the link. It says 1066NM. But that still doesn't add up with the HP figure.

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Press the link. It says the engine has 1066NM @ 8500 RPM. ???

EDIT: But we do agree that the NM figure is wrong? But the link does say 1066NM. Not 1660NM.

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Looking closer, 1,066Nm @ 8,500rpm = 1,272hp. So, that is unlikely unless it is the torque figure for when the engine is tuned to 1,400hp.

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That's it, time to check out, for those of you gentlemen interested in the rest of the story, you can always PM MOWOG.
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xpensive wrote:That's it, time to check out, for those of you gentlemen interested in the rest of the story, you can always PM MOWOG.
Hey come on X! This isn't something that cannot be resolved by some amicable shuffling. We are all genuinely interested in the technology and the history. It is fascinating to discuss the current issues in the light of 25 years of experience. Tomba simply hasn't got the resources to guide these discussions on very short notice. Sometimes three or four weeks go by until I get a response on any issues I present to the moderation. So in effect we have to apply a bit of self moderation and a high dose of patience. Playing the insulted victim doesn't get us anywhere. None of the guys who have chimed into this discussion have been really unreasonable IMO. If some people crack a bad joke which doesn't hit the mood who cares?

You have earned some serious reputation points in a very short time since you have joined us again. I can only say I'm very pleased to have you back although we had our disagreements in the past. So take a deep breath, count to three and keep going. I'm sure we will have fun!

You have to keep things in perspective. If you research the YOUTUBE resources on the net you find a bunch of guys who would deny that championship winning four bangers ever happened in F1. They are convinced that the BMW 83 or 84 engines were in reality one sided shots of V8s. How strange is that? It takes some old buggers to set things right and you should not escape your responsibility in that respect. ;-) :wink:
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Please xpensive bring back your posts. I didn't even get to read them, and I have always valued your opinion!!!
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MOWOG wrote:Here are some thoughts from Ross Brawn regarding next year's regulations:

Brawn expecting many engine failures in 2014


Ross Brawn is expecting the 2014 season to be characterised by failures. After years of engine regulation stability, the sport is undergoing an enormous technical shakeup at present ahead of next year's radical switch to turbo V6 power.

"We will go back to a time such as 20 years ago," Mercedes team boss Brawn is quoted by Auto Motor und Sport. "The technology is so complex that I expect a lot of failures. So there will be a new element of surprise," he predicted.

Brawn said the challenge will be intensified yet further by the tightening of F1's long-life engine rules, with each driver to be allocated just 5 units next year, rather than 8 at present. "And the failures will be not just the engines, but the individual components," he said. For instance, if turbochargers or batteries fail next year, replacing the component will attract the same penalty of a ten-place grid demotion, once the drivers' engine allocation has run out.

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I have a question. Don't the teams get to approve or disapprove changes to the technical regulations? Why do they constantly agree to things that are contrary to their best interests? :wtf:

Perhaps reverse order starting grids will become commonplace in our beloved sport thanks to all the top boys getting pushed back 10 grid spots every race..... :-s
I'm surprised he thinks there will be that many failures. The regulations are very strict, not allowing teams to push to higher reliability boundaries like they were with the V10s. That's also why we used to see many more failures in a season. I don't really expect many, but I hold Brawn's opinions high, so maybe we will have an exciting season ahead.
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