Ferrari F2012

[pocketmoon]

Has anyone covered the forward-swept sidepods ? The whole overall shape of the car has moved away from the traditional tear-drop.

[vis]

no one posted this pictures, so i do it

don't know if already mentioned before in this post, but the nose tip in the F2012 is clearly behind the front wing leading edge: I think it's a first on recent F1 cars, what aero gains should this solution provide ?

Drivers should also be more careful during battles, especially not to hit from the back the car in front: with this solution they would definitely damage the front wing, while with the "long nose" if they are lucky they can get along with only a scratched nose tip...

[Lurk]

It's only due to the lense deformation. If you look at the pic from top, you'd see that nose tip is a little ahead FW

[Sisso KavanhaK]

Hey guys.

Here's a link that you can see some similarities between 2008 and 2012 design.

http://www.marca.com/2012/02/03/multime ... 69686.html

In terms of aero, the 2008 car had a interesting nose solution.


For me, the solutions for aero in 2012 are just similar then 2008, without the wing parts.

They will seek to transform some big parts of the car in wings, as we can se on exhaust exit.

[vis]

It's only due to the lense deformation. If you look at the pic from top, you'd see that nose tip is a little ahead FW

For sure it's much shorther than 2011 car...

[shelly]

I have seen a lot of stickers in the video - I was wrong then when I said they are avoided if possible

[italian]

Maybe stupid question (I'm not airo guy) - Is there some significant difference (for airo) if the air which is blobving on some part is hot or not? I mean not exhust gas hot, but just more heater than the ambient temerature? Can this help, or it's the same?

I think it isn't a stupid question. I would say that air increases its volume.
Other ideas guys?

[vall]

Air flow on the F2012 nose:

Thanks to https://twitter.com/#!/Elabuelo_F1

Would there be any benefits to this design over the common V nose other teams are adopting?

as someone mentioned, this may help reduce the drag by the driver helemt..... who knows how the iarflow goes.....

[n_anirudh]

True, but I doubt it would take the parabolic path to reach the airbox..like in the pic...

[amouzouris]

Hey guys.

Here's a link that you can see some similarities between 2008 and 2012 design.

http://www.marca.com/2012/02/03/multime ... 69686.html

In terms of aero, the 2008 car had a interesting nose solution.


For me, the solutions for aero in 2012 are just similar then 2008, without the wing parts.

They will seek to transform some big parts of the car in wings, as we can se on exhaust exit.

by comparing the f2008 with the f2012 i noticed that cars now are much longer..also...the sidepods in the f2008 were tiny compared to the ones we have now...how come they cannot make them so small now?

[lombers]

Long time reader first time posting. I must admit initially I wasn't so sure about the new car, but having looked at the pictures again I quite like it.

The nose is certainly not the most aerodynamic of shapes, but clearly for this car design this produced the best numbers in the wind tunnel. Either that or Ferrari are playing funny buggers by showing all the other teams this design at their launch, who knows...

The real question we need answered; Is the car fast? I'm not even sure testing will show the full result, we may need to wait till Albert Park for the proper answer. I for one will be following the car's development in the coming months closely to see how it evolves from this first glimpse.

[Tozza Mazza]

Hey guys.

Here's a link that you can see some similarities between 2008 and 2012 design.

http://www.marca.com/2012/02/03/multime ... 69686.html

In terms of aero, the 2008 car had a interesting nose solution.


For me, the solutions for aero in 2012 are just similar then 2008, without the wing parts.

They will seek to transform some big parts of the car in wings, as we can se on exhaust exit.

by comparing the f2008 with the f2012 i noticed that cars now are much longer..also...the sidepods in the f2008 were tiny compared to the ones we have now...how come they cannot make them so small now?

No refueling = bigger fuel tanks = longer cars

[amouzouris]

oh yes u r right about the fuel tanks..now i remember..but the sidepods were TINY...why are they so bigger now?

[raymondu999]

I'm not sure; but perhaps in 2008, they would have used winglets and canards to increase the mass flow into the side pods, so you'd get the same cooling from a smaller area? I would think a bit of it would also be due to the lack of refueling, as back then you could at least introduce some fuel into the system which is cooler than the engine to help cool it a bit.

[Gerhard Berger]

Air flow on the F2012 nose:

Thanks to https://twitter.com/#!/Elabuelo_F1

Would there be any benefits to this design over the common V nose other teams are adopting?

As scarbs said, airflow under the car is more important than over the car. Without the V nose, Ferrari have made the bottom of the nose and bulkhead as high as possible.