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There was "The South African Formula One Championship" in the early 70s?
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dumrick wrote:Which kind of Formula 1 were these cars eligible for, having this model won a championship in 1973?
Tasman Series?

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Concerning the which kind bit, I'm looking for a category of cars with Formula One in its name, very much like X's guess (but that's the wrong one).
segedunum wrote:Tasman Series?
These cars were, in fact, also eligible for the Tasman Series... :-"

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Austr ... ampionship

A 1973 Australian Drivers' Championship was a CAMS sanctioned national motor racing title open to drivers of Australian Formula 1 and Australian Formula 2 cars. The championship winner was awarded the 1973 CAMS "Gold Star".
The title was contested over a five round series.

Round 1, Surfers Paradise, Queensland, 2 September
Round 2, Channel 7 Trophy, Adelaide International Raceway, South Australia, 7 October
Round 3, Phillip Island, Victoria, 14 October
Round 4, Australian Grand Prix, Sandown, Victoria, 4 November
Round 5, Phillip Island, Victoria, 25 November
Championship points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis for the top six places in each round with all rounds counting towards each driver's points total. Only drivers holding a CAMS General Competition License were eligible to score points.

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"Australian Formula 1"? What do you know?
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That's right, WhiteBlue nailed it. It was Australian F1, something I discovered yesterday that once existed...

WhiteBlue's turn...

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dumrick wrote:That's right, WhiteBlue nailed it. It was Australian F1, something I discovered yesterday that once existed...

WhiteBlue's turn...
Thx, dumrick, I think I found the source of the MR5 pic. http://www.sergent.com.au/motor/72pic21.jpg


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Name the F1 team which fielded a catastrophal car that featured aero designed by a highly prominent designer.
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John Barnard, Prost GP?

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manchild wrote:John Barnard, Prost GP?
no, much worse! The designer claimed that all other F1 designers were clueless about aero. His own aero never worked.
The team in question can easily compete for the title "Worst F1 team ever".
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The Eiffeland Team that ran a March 721 redesigned by one of the strangest designers in history, Luigi Colani? That designer's quote sounds familiar...

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Well done Dumrick. Over to you. http://www.research-racing.de/Eifelland1.htm

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The testing sessions before the South African Grand Prix in the heat of Kyalami Colani entered wearing fashionable boots up to his knees. The cars of the other designers he simply called >Eierkisten< (= box to carry in eggs), but no Briton really gave him the pleasure to answer to this massive provocation. The only comment came from March star driver Ronnie Peterson. He called the Eifelland crew >Team Dream<, but what did it really mean? A team so wonderful, you can only dream of ? Or a team of daydreamers ?

Surely, the Eifelland March was quick with the Colani bodywork during the first testing session, nearly as fast as Denny Hulme´s later winning McLaren Ford M19. But in the tropical heat the overheating of the engine again became the number one problem. That had been shown already during the Hockenheim roll-out and that happened during the cold German winter ! Now in Kyalami it became really clear, that the car was a March Ford designed for March aerodynamics and nothing else. For the Colani bodywork an absolutely different chassis with a completely new design of suspensions and radiators had became neccessary. So it was no wonder nearly all parts of the Colani bodywork were taken away from the car to be replaced by original or re-designed March produced ones. Only the Colani cockpit cover remained.
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I give up. The questions can be widely interpreted, so it isn't a fun really. I mean, mentioning a "highly prominent" designer in F1 technical forum, would never by any logic include Luigi Colani. It was a trick question more than anything, and the trick was in fact that designer in question is prominent in all fields of design except F1 design.

The other question about engine was also much undefined, and later turned out to be added with demands about capacity and cyl. angle. No problem for me, I'm not complaining, but it is just too much waste of time for my taste of time-killing fun.

There was also a question about a driver from golden era who married a celebrity, and piloted by himself to races. Richard Seaman married daughter of BMW director, and flew to races by himself too. Get my point? The questions just aren't precise enough.

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On the subject of "possibly the worst team ever", which F1 team was born from a F2 venture that used the previous year F2 champion chassis and achieved pole for its first race, only to start losing competitiveness over the season, as modifications were introduced on the car?
This team, on its way to F1, still tried to purchase the car, but ended building a chassis, even after their bad engineering experiences in F2.

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Sounds a lot like Token, why the F2 outfit must have been Rondel/Motul with Ron Dennis?
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manchild wrote: I mean, mentioning a "highly prominent" designer in F1 technical forum, would never by any logic include Luigi Colani. It was a trick question more than anything, and the trick was in fact that designer in question is prominent in all fields of design except F1 design.
Colani was a prominent designer of industrial and consumer goods. His visit to F1 was an absolute catastrophy. If you read the question carefully you would have realised that he only did the aero which is very unusual in F1 and hints to the point that he wasn't an F1 designer. The list of F1 rejects in terms of teams is relatively short and Dumrick found it quickly.

manchild wrote:There was also a question about a driver from golden era who married a celebrity, and piloted by himself to races. Richard Seaman married daughter of BMW director, and flew to races by himself too. Get my point? The questions just aren't precise enough.
Seaman did never fit the question. He did not have the driving style of Rosemeyer who was often compared with Villeneuve. I'm sorry if you don't like the questions but none of them took more than some minutes of googling. I also give hints as soon as I am aware of any problem. Other players have also realized that my questions usually relate to the rich German heritage in motor racing.
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