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Alonso is god. Could have easily retired the car, but fought until the last lap, that too in one of the most grueling races on the calendar.KimiRai wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 04:31What Aston needs at the moment is to not dream about these things and secure P4 which is not a done deal.
If Lance is not ready for Suzuka then that's a shame, I thought he wasn't going to be too bad there. One of the weirdest things about this season from Stroll is that he was closer when he had pain & was recovering from his injuries which is completely counterintuitive. Only explanation I can find is that over the course of the season the car has gotten worse and trickier to drive and that could have increased the differences between the drivers.
I also find it amusing how true the "you are only as good as your last race" statement is. Fernando does one of the greatest races of his career in my opinion in Zandvoort and it was all smiles and fanfare from the pundits, then comes Singapore with a worse execution influenced by a damaged car and all of a sudden Fernando's too old according to DC (throwing stones in glass houses much) or Lance is masking Fernando's shortcomings or whatever. Not on this forum in particular thankfully. Similar thing has happened with Sainz for example, earlier this season some Ferrari fans were asking for him to be gone and now look at him beating Leclerc mostly on merit, probably those who asked for his replacement don't even remember they did. Too much short sightedness in F1.
If DC keeps it up, he might aswell get it.
It hasn't looked good, that for sure.makecry wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 23:51"Aston is threatened with a hard end-of-season sprint. "I already said after the first races that we do not have the infrastructure and firepower in the development race like other teams. We try to bring continuous upgrades, but others do it at a higher rate. That's why we are investing in our campus right now," says Krack." via AMuS.
Bruh you guys had --- ton of wind tunnel time, you guys touted how majority of the car would change because of an aggressive development plan. IMO this implies they don't expect to find the gains we hope they would.
I made a comment back in May about the whether AM will be able to develop the car effectively or not...makecry wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 23:51"Aston is threatened with a hard end-of-season sprint. "I already said after the first races that we do not have the infrastructure and firepower in the development race like other teams. We try to bring continuous upgrades, but others do it at a higher rate. That's why we are investing in our campus right now," says Krack." via AMuS.
Bruh you guys had --- ton of wind tunnel time, you guys touted how majority of the car would change because of an aggressive development plan. IMO this implies they don't expect to find the gains we hope they would.
What I really wanted to say was that I was worried about Fallows comments he made about the rules being "too complicated" and "too rigid to allow conceptual innovation" but it would have come off as overly pessimistic at a time AM was doing well.peewon wrote: ↑17 May 2023, 19:07Im very interested to see how much AM technical dept. can develop this car. No doubt Fallows is the main man behind the design but he came with a lot of insight from RB/Newey. It'll be interesting to see where they can go once they move beyond that knowledge. That'll determine whether the great leap they made at the start of this season was a one off or an indicator of sustained rise towards the top.
Don't get why rules are so strict now that there's a budget cap and aero restrictions in place, they should open the regs. Who knows what Fallows had in mind, now I'm curious.
In order to promote close racing, you have to minimize the dirty air produced by the leading car so that the downforce loss isnt too much or the trailing car. To achieve this, you have to restrict certain types of aero solutions such as bargeboards which generated a lot of dirty air. That's the basic premise as to why the rules are the way they are.
Alonso:
"It [car damage] certainly wasn't helping. We know how much it affected, we won't share that data but it was significant. I'm a little less worried about the performance in Singapore after seeing the damage we had. The pace wasn't what it really was, without that we might have been able to keep up with the leaders and we would have had less problems with the Alpines and Perez. When you're not fast you get into a lot of trouble," said Alonso at Suzuka. Do you know when that damage was generated? "Yes, it's private".
"At high speed we were not the best at most circuits, so we are worried for Suzuka; but at Zandvoort at high load we fought for the podium. I hope it will be one of those, a positive surprise with a good, clean weekend for the team. In Monza we were ninth, in Singapore there were no points... after two bad races we need a good one. And also for Lance, we will try to have the best weekend," said Fernando.
Krack:
“There are still some things to come over the next races, and at the same time develop the new car.”
