Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[max_speed]

http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/11/ ... 51_800.jpg

This the best image to represent the season of Mclaren.

i think , mclaren would be trying some extreme engine mapping with alonso. alonso was consistently faster than button somewhere in range of .2-.3 seconds and that is why engine blew. was it spec4 engine or old one.

[mclaren111]

I like the look of this FW:

[RicME85]

http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/11/ ... 51_800.jpg

This the best image to represent the season of Mclaren.

i think , mclaren would be trying some extreme engine mapping with alonso. alonso was consistently faster than button somewhere in range of .2-.3 seconds and that is why engine blew. was it spec4 engine or old one.

Was introduced at Austin so latest spec

[adrianjordan]

=D> The aero details on this car have really changed since the beginning of the season.

+1 on this.

I wonder whether anyone would have the time to compile a set of photos comparing the car at various stages throughout the season once the season is over.

I would, but I'm juggling university and 1.5 full time jobs at the moment..!!

[proteus]

I did my best to find somewhat same angles, but still on some pictures details are a bit hidden due to the position of the car. Otherwise, this photos are from every venue so far, i just hope i didnt make a mistake while browsing

[proteus]

Jerez test

Barcelona test

Spain in season test

Australia

Austria

Britain

Hungary

Belgium

Singapur

USA

Mexico

Brazil

[Morteza]

Analysis - McLaren rear diffuser development

This season the area around the rear tyres has seen a significant amount of research and development, seeking out new solutions to improve efficiency, like this one from McLaren’s Peter Prodromou seen on the MP4-30 in Brazil.


© Giorgio Piola

The outside section of the diffuser is controlled by two short vertical fences, positioned outwards at an angle of 45 degrees. (see blue arrows)

The goal is to reduce the lift and drag effect created by the tyre, thereby increasing the car’s rear-end aerodynamic efficiency.

Via Formula1.com

[turbof1]

I still think they have aerodynamic issues, or are scratching their heads to optimalise anyway. The front wing has been tweaked so many times throughout the season. There are areas of it they feel comfortable with, but others are not given what they want.

This is how the front wing evolved:

Winter testing




A bit later during winter testing, different cascades and changed flaps:


More changes in Australia, with the flap tips reprofiled for the Y250 vortex:



The next few races they would go back and forth between this design and the previous design. Eventually the Australian spec got less and less track time.

Until June, when the short nose was introduced during the Austrian GP:




In Silverstone they changed the endplate area, and moved the wing elements a little bit inboard:





In Singapore they added canards to both sides of the endplate, and slightly tweaked the opening in the opening in the endplate:



Then during the American GP, the further moved the wing front elements (so not all of them) inboard, and put slots in the flat section of the footplate:

Coupled with yet again an updated endplate:


In general, their outboard area is something they are struggling with. This is crucial for aero consistency due the interaction with the wheel. Dedication more area like they have done in Silverstone and further in Austin will make the aero platform more stable at the sacrifice of peak downforce.

Further, their Y250 area might also not yet be fully optimized. It'll be something to watch out for either during the post Abu Dhabi test, or during pre-season winter testing.

[dren]

It just looks like they are developing towards what top teams are doing. I wouldn't say they are struggling with any one section.

[Joseki]

I think Prodromou is simply adapting the front wing to the concept he developed at Red Bull since they look more similar than ever now.

[dren]

I think Prodromou is simply adapting the front wing to the concept he developed at Red Bull since they look more similar than ever now.

Exactly. Imagine that...

[turbof1]

Red Bull and Mclaren have both evolved down the same path, but independently. Force India is following suit, albeit on a slower pace.

It is remarkable though that Red Bull very quickly made the jump from their previous ethos to the one more similar to Mercedes. Mclaren made very small and numerous steps across the season.

Note that this is not the same situation as in 2013. They are able to continually develop while keeping a good sense on the differences between simulated and real life data. I don't think they are fully there yet, but are edging closer. It's the clash where the old aero philosophy is making room for the new one, but where they currently are in a grey area somewhere between the 2 philosophies. Expect the next car to tackle it much better.

[GoranF1]

Red Bull and Mclaren have both evolved down the same path, but independently. Force India is following suit, albeit on a slower pace.

It is remarkable though that Red Bull very quickly made the jump from their previous ethos to the one more similar to Mercedes. Mclaren made very small and numerous steps across the season.

Note that this is not the same situation as in 2013. They are able to continually develop while keeping a good sense on the differences between simulated and real life data. I don't think they are fully there yet, but are edging closer. It's the clash where the old aero philosophy is making room for the new one, but where they currently are in a grey area somewhere between the 2 philosophies. Expect the next car to tackle it much better.

It's difficult to say if their aero is working properly or not considering they drive about 1,5(at least) off the optimal pace due to power loss.
I think its possible PP has worked on compromised aero set-up/levels trough the season.
And i hope that Prodrumou is not lost whitout Newey's ideas. [-o<

[proteus]

U know what is the strangest thing im feeling when watching the car trough time? Im starting to miss that long and nicely shaped nose with their silver/red livery.

[turbof1]

Red Bull and Mclaren have both evolved down the same path, but independently. Force India is following suit, albeit on a slower pace.

It is remarkable though that Red Bull very quickly made the jump from their previous ethos to the one more similar to Mercedes. Mclaren made very small and numerous steps across the season.

Note that this is not the same situation as in 2013. They are able to continually develop while keeping a good sense on the differences between simulated and real life data. I don't think they are fully there yet, but are edging closer. It's the clash where the old aero philosophy is making room for the new one, but where they currently are in a grey area somewhere between the 2 philosophies. Expect the next car to tackle it much better.

It's difficult to say if their aero is working properly or not considering they drive about 1,5(at least) off the optimal pace due to power loss.
I think its possible PP has worked on compromised aero set-up/levels trough the season.
And i hope that Prodrumou is not lost whitout Newey's ideas. [-o<

Given mclaren still has very similar aero as Red Bull despite the huge differences beteen the beginning of the season and the current design, I think PP is certainly not lost.