2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Luscion
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Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.
Its one of Lewis' worst tracks, lets wait till Silverstone

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Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.

Actually thought he did ok in the second Q3 run. The mercedes and ferrari are very close to each other and not close at all to the front.

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Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:05
Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.
Its one of Lewis' worst tracks, lets wait till Silverstone
Russell is leading the Q H2H 9-2 this season, though.

Luscion
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SchuMassa wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:14
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:05
Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.
Its one of Lewis' worst tracks, lets wait till Silverstone
Russell is leading the Q H2H 9-2 this season, though.
Its more about Lewis potentially finding a solution to the sensitive tire issues in Barcelona which Allison said he was sending an email to the team about. While Russell is winning the head to head its by fine margins, 0.063 secs here

Dunlay
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SchuMassa wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:14
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:05
Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.
Its one of Lewis' worst tracks, lets wait till Silverstone
Russell is leading the Q H2H 9-2 this season, though.
It's 11-3 if you include sprint qualifyings.

Luscion
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Russell and Lewis said they made changes to help with race pace tomorrow, Shovlin saying their race pace wasnt quite on a par with McLaren so they made some changes that costed them a bit in quali. Will be interesting tomorrow, Leclerc thinks Ferrari might be faster with the changes they made and Hamilton thinks he can get past Sainz

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Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 18:07
Russell and Lewis said they made changes to help with race pace tomorrow, Shovlin saying their race pace wasnt quite on a par with McLaren so they made some changes that costed them a bit in quali. Will be interesting tomorrow, Leclerc thinks Ferrari might be faster with the changes they made and Hamilton thinks he can get past Sainz
Sainz also said the Mercs would be hard to keep up with.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 18:43
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 18:07
Russell and Lewis said they made changes to help with race pace tomorrow, Shovlin saying their race pace wasnt quite on a par with McLaren so they made some changes that costed them a bit in quali. Will be interesting tomorrow, Leclerc thinks Ferrari might be faster with the changes they made and Hamilton thinks he can get past Sainz
Sainz also said the Mercs would be hard to keep up with.
This https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1792463637690646868 didn't age well for them :D

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If the Silverstone race improvements don't bring Mercedes half a second or at least 0.400, then all the talk of improvements has been greatly overstated.

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SchuMassa wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:14
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:05
Dunlay wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 17:04
Seems like Lewis' struggles are back! He is overdriving the car with little success.
Its one of Lewis' worst tracks, lets wait till Silverstone
Russell is leading the Q H2H 9-2 this season, though.
Shows how quick Russell is. No tame driver pairing at Mercedes. They both have to fight for everything.
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Also remember Lewis is 39 years old. Russell should be beating him him in Q. Would be shame if he wasn't!

The f1 driver model has a downward adjustment for age. Russell basically is at peak performance and Lewis has lost about 0.25% percent peformance. These units are points per race though.. Which is some arbitrary unit for these driver models that don't directly translate into qualifying pace. However the point is that Russell should have a massive advantage racing against a forty year old Lewis Hamilton.

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/09 ... ics-model/

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PlatinumZealot wrote:Also remember Lewis is 39 years old. Russell should be beating him him in Q. Would be shame if he wasn't!

The f1 driver model has a downward adjustment for age. Russell basically is at peak performance and Lewis has lost about 0.25% percent peformance. These units are points per race though.. Which is some arbitrary unit for these driver models that don't directly translate into qualifying pace. However the point is that Russell should have a massive advantage racing against a forty year old Lewis Hamilton.

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/09 ... ics-model/

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It's incredible what kind of season 42-year-old Alonso drove last season when the car was good.

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maygun wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:01
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 18:43
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 18:07
Russell and Lewis said they made changes to help with race pace tomorrow, Shovlin saying their race pace wasnt quite on a par with McLaren so they made some changes that costed them a bit in quali. Will be interesting tomorrow, Leclerc thinks Ferrari might be faster with the changes they made and Hamilton thinks he can get past Sainz
Sainz also said the Mercs would be hard to keep up with.
This https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1792463637690646868 didn't age well for them :D
Merc's in seasons development regularly puts Ferrari to shame. So it's no surprise.

Luscion
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RB and Mclaren gifted Merc here, well done to George. Shame Lewis had floor damage most of the race, could have been a double podium

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Another clean drive there from George and collecting a lucky win. He was there to take advantage. Good job.