2012 Monaco GP - Monte Carlo

[gibells]

I know about the flexi-wings but It is how they move how it is interesting me. As they don't flex only down and up. they behave as they are hunging like a lamp so the move in all directions. The only part rigid it is the external (down area and sides) were FIA apply weight test

Yep Red, I saw it too, and posted about it on the car forum. It's almost like a low frequency oscillation. It seems out of sync with a low speed corner where you'd need it as rigid as you'd like. We may see them change it during the weekend.

[AnthonyG]

Perhaps they use the wing as a mass damper...

[nacho]

I believe the sideways movement has been visible for a long time in the slow motion shots.

[raymondu999]

Understeering on the FP1 as usual in Monaco, would disapear when more grip on the track is.
That is something that Felipe should know

That's not a given. Some cars improve grip on the rear, some improve on the front. Rubbering in doesn't always give a stronger front. In Barcelona for example the McLarens were getting quite a bit understeery in free practice as the track gripped up

Sure, you right, but i mean it, contrary as in Barcelona (permanent circuit) the track in monaco give more grip, the more you drive, thus changing driving behavior of the car, during the three free training sessions, more than on a permanent track.... But when the rain comes,....

Yes - but it might still increase understeer. Having more rubbering in/cleaning up of the circuit could mean a big oversteer shift, a big understeer shift, or just a grip increase (no balance shift)

[Gridlock]

They're chunking over massive kerbs and these things are built with strength only in the main directions - they will all wobble, and they will all wobble differently.

However, Gerhard Berger was on Sky and said flex-wings, of the kind made impossible by recent testing changes, were worth 0.5s

[Chuckjr]

To any F1 broadcast official, SpeedTV employee,  or FIA associated individual who reads this forum...I'd like to make two requests please as I watch FP2 in Monaco:

(both requests apply to the USA SpeedTV feed)

1. Can you please place some sort of tire choice identification icon (red or yellow or blue or green or...dot or something) next to the driver initials on vertical screen left? It would make it so much easier to quickly assimilate times between drivers. Especially for quali and race....

2. Can you please list the full top six drivers at all times and only occasionally list bottom six (opposite what you do now), or just list all times all the time? It gets terribly annoying when your watching the front six drivers most of the race and the only times listed are first place and then it skips 6 places(???), then the rest of the placed drivers. The viewer cannot follow the most tv viewed car times, all the time. The only way to get all top 6 times you have to wait for the ticker tape to fully cycle on the bottom. 
 (I can't follow times off
a website as I have to watch each session tape delayed due to my job)

Thank you for your time. 

[FW17]

Bomb exploded at circuit

A bomb disposal expert has undertaken a controlled explosion of a suspect package in the paddock at the Monaco Grand Prix circuit.
A small white plastic box was found outside the entrance to the media centre, the Salle d'Exposition, near to La Rascasse on Thursday evening.
The area was then sealed off, before the bomb disposal expert decided the package was suspect.
The controlled explosion left shards of white plastic strewn across the floor.
It is the second time in successive years a bomb disposal unit has been summoned to the paddock ahead of the Monaco race.
Last year they had to examine a discarded bag before the race on Sunday, although the item was eventually declared safe.

[raymondu999]

Yeah I heard about that. Apparently a lot of journalists and other people in the paddock immediately looked up, thinking fireworks were starting

I wonder though- a controlled open air explosion? How wise is that? Generally the bomb squad tactics I know of use specialist bomb explosion containers that can just about contain anything up to a nuclear blast. Something like one of these:

[Richard]

A suspicious package is not necessarily a bomb.

[raymondu999]

Yes, but "The controlled explosion left shards of white plastic strewn across the floor"
So they did blow the thing up. What if it WAS explosives, and it was set off? What then?

[gridwalker]

Last time I checked, a controlled detonation is designed to shred the electronics with a separate charge (often shotgun shells), which prevents the detonation system from creating the electrical shockwave that is required to set off the most common high explosives. An exclusion zone is generally set up to minimise the damage caused by the accidental detonation of lower grade explosives, but this is mostly done as a precautionary measure.

[Richard]

Yup, as far as I can gather the idea is that the bomb assembly is destroyed so that the main charge can't explode. Sad to say it, but this was regular feature on the news in the UK in the 80's. The police got so good at this that they could reassemble the bomb afterwards so they could learn how it worked and to identify each bomb maker's unique style

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6265598.stm

It's routine stuff for a well trained bomb disposal team. I expect the Monaco police will have plenty of expertise and know what they are doing. I wonder if they use the French army for bomb disposal services?

[gridwalker]

I remember the 1980s, when there were no bins on any railway stations out of fear of the IRA. The Army brought a bomb disposal robot to my school one time (for show, not actual use) which I thought was pretty cool.

Considering how much money has been poured into anti-terrorism over recent years, modern tools will be far more advanced than the cumbersome devices we had back then. Given the security arrangements that travel with F1 (especially post-Bahrain) I doubt that handling this will have been a big deal.

When security forces are on a hair trigger, the silliest things can set off a security alert : the metal plating in my mum's ankle once set off a metal detector at Waterloo International station, causing a terrorist alert that delayed the Eurostar schedule for an hour. That package could have been anything

[ArchAngel]

Any word yet from forensics whether it was indeed a bomb? Did they even at least bother to give the package a sniff-over from a canine bomb detector? Have any Canadian student groups claimed responsibility for the incident? Man, the drama just won't let up this year!

Might be ominous for an explosive weekend -- fireworks on the wet streets of Monte-Carlo! Wo0ot!

[ParanoiD]

What is inside the package anyway?

I remember there was bomb-terror in Jakarta where they made the bomb look like package. And one day a lady received a mysterious package in front of her house and get paranoid. So she call the bomb squad and they blow decided to blow it. What was inside the package? A branded heels meant for her daughter ship from AUS from the boyfriend. HA!