2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

[Restomaniac]

Back to Q1 yesterday. There was a moment where Clare Williams was showing a text message on her phone to an engineer, and she was looking at him, seemingly very concerned about what the text message said. Any ideas what that could have been? I'm thinking that if it was anyone in the garage or at the track, they would have come over to her, so maybe it was the UK base that had spotted something on the telemetry. Any ideas? Or was anyone watching on a 4k TV and could read the text?

Im pretty certain that ’he’ was a blonde ‘she‘ with a pony tail.

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Back to Q1 yesterday. There was a moment where Clare Williams was showing a text message on her phone to an engineer, and she was looking at him, seemingly very concerned about what the text message said. Any ideas what that could have been? I'm thinking that if it was anyone in the garage or at the track, they would have come over to her, so maybe it was the UK base that had spotted something on the telemetry. Any ideas? Or was anyone watching on a 4k TV and could read the text?

yep, 4k did it for some

"Hi Paul, Claire or Paddy may have have mentioned this, but as an engineer you need to be wearing shirt and trousers, not shorts and t-shirt, especially if you are sat on the pit wall. Thanks."

https://twitter.com/CraigKwacK/status/1 ... 0516670464

[Edax]

I guess in Montreal it played a part that Vettel was not on a qualifying lap anyway though (not one that he planed to finish at speed at least)

No, he was on a quali lap till he reached those cars in the back straight.

Very different circumstance. Those three cars were backed up by all the cars in front. There’s a line of them going into the final turn. They can’t simply disappear. You could have a point about one of the cars though that was over on the left where all the others were on the right. In Sebs case he was totally on his own dawdling on the racing line. He very easily could’ve been told by his team or should’ve made sure himself that he didn’t block anyone. If you don’t give a penalty for what Seb did then I don’t think you can ever give a penalty for blocking.

The car on the left was going into the pits. That is safer than staying on the right and crossing at the last moment. Normally not a problem and I think even preferred as it provides clarity on where a car is going. After all it is the racing line which is abusing the pit entry and not visa versa. But with 3 slow cars on the straight it becomes a slalom.

Agree that it is different from what Seb was doing. His explanation was interesting. Namely that he was looking in his mirrors the whole time but couldn’t see him. If true it would not surprise me if we see some some FIA induced changes to the mirrors in a couple of races.

[LM10]

Little analysis on the Qualifying laps:

Mercedes and Ferrari were kind of equally fast until the end of S2. Just half a tenth between Kimi, being the slowest of them and Bottas, the fastest. Vettel was even closer, but lost 3 tenths in the last sector.

Sector 1: Bottas took the first corner 10 km/h faster than Vettel. Overall Vettel was more than a tenth down on Mercedes. I don't know what Vettel did there because Kimi also was a tenth faster than him.

Sector 2: Bottas lost accelerating out of turn 3 and on the brakes going into turn 4. If Vettel hadn't lost so much time in first sector, he could have been a tenth faster than Bottas at the end of sector 2.

Sector 3: Even if Vettel could have been faster overall after S1 and S2, he would have had no chance for pole because Mercedes was in it's own league in those fast corners of S3. Coming into turn 7 Vettel was at 256 km/h and Bottas equally fast at 255 km/h, but then Mercedes magic started. Bottas with 238 km/h was 13 km/h faster than Vettel at 225 km/h at the apex of that turn. Same goes for the turns 9 and 10 where Vettel lost 1.5 tenths.

If I was Ferrari, my main goal would be to decrease the performance gap on fast corners. Mercedes was just too fast there.

[Just_a_fan]

yep, 4k did it for some

"Hi Paul, Claire or Paddy may have have mentioned this, but as an engineer you need to be wearing shirt and trousers, not shorts and t-shirt, especially if you are sat on the pit wall. Thanks."

https://twitter.com/CraigKwacK/status/1 ... 0516670464

You'd think Williams would have more to worry about than what someone is wearing...they need to get the car competitive and I'm guessing someone's choice of clothing won't have much to do with it.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

I think Ric main point was that they were going for three runs and it would have been easy to do a 2:1 split in Q3 and have Ver take one for the team. That meant that RB would likely have been 5 & 6 on the grid.
A mature driver would have simply said sure and got on with the job trusting that his two attempts would have been more than enough to still be in front. A mature driver would have been thinking of a future championship where he may need help from a team mate one day.

A mature driver saw his partner screw him from behind in Baku and the world came down on him. A mature driver saw the media come after him, after a few mistakes AND then chose to play for himself. DISCIPLINE means DISCIPLINE.

A Strong driver doesn't need help from his team mate to win. A Strong driver goes out there and takes his best shot and put the car where probably it doesn't belong. A Strong driver doesn't trail his his immature team mate 6-3 in qualifying and 4-2 in races.

It was a team agreement as to who runs in front and it was made plain and simple by Horner. It was Ric who was struggling and couldn't match Max's pace and then chose not to do what was agreed. Why should Max help him, while he has been the one suffering the banters from audiences and press alike?

[Restomaniac]

Back to Q1 yesterday. There was a moment where Clare Williams was showing a text message on her phone to an engineer, and she was looking at him, seemingly very concerned about what the text message said. Any ideas what that could have been? I'm thinking that if it was anyone in the garage or at the track, they would have come over to her, so maybe it was the UK base that had spotted something on the telemetry. Any ideas? Or was anyone watching on a 4k TV and could read the text?

yep, 4k did it for some

"Hi Paul, Claire or Paddy may have have mentioned this, but as an engineer you need to be wearing shirt and trousers, not shorts and t-shirt, especially if you are sat on the pit wall. Thanks."

https://twitter.com/CraigKwacK/status/1 ... 0516670464

If you get to watch it again with 4:35 to go in P2 you can see ‘Paul’ on the pit Wall wearing his shorts and t-shirt.

[iotar__]

A Strong driver doesn't need help from his team mate to win. A Strong driver goes out there and takes his best shot and put the car where probably it doesn't belong. A Strong driver doesn't trail his his immature team mate 6-3 in qualifying and 4-2 in races.

Ugh. Monaco '16, Bahrain '17 x 2, Hungary was it '14? (wait, that's true enough), Hungary '17. You want a list of team orders at Red Bull starting with Barcelona win , Ferrari or some other strong drivers lists (Schumacher)? Anyway...

- Anyone, in this case Haas, beating out of reach top 3 team on merit (I know 2nd to 1st but times are close enough) should be the headlines story of the week.

- Predictably in the sponsored promotion (Red Bull's to be precise), garbage tier F1 media this event does not exist.
- Neither does the gap Ferrari 0,4, Raikkonen 0,23 (no engine excuses) or 5th best team +0,8 s. Imagine if it was ~40 year old Alonso & McL .

[f1316]

Everyone seems to love Ricciardo, so I know I’m in the minority, but I really find him to be a bad sport - both ungracious when he loses (there’s always an excuse as to why Max is the faster, if less consistent or more rash, driver), and when he wins he comes over (to me at least) as quite braggadocious.

In this case they had an agreement which their rules would dictate would benefit him in another race - if that doesn’t happen when Max is the lead car somewhere, then he has a right to complain.

In fairness to him though, DR has since backed down and accepted the team’s decision.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Ugh. Monaco '16, Bahrain '17 x 2, Hungary was it '14? (wait, that's true enough), Hungary '17. You want a list of team orders at Red Bull starting with Barcelona win , Ferrari or some other strong drivers lists (Schumacher)? Anyway...

How about Monaco 15 and Austria 16? When the team screwed the leading driver. How about Bahrain 15, Austria 16 and many other times when priority pit stop strategy was changed to accommodate the slower driver? You need the full list?

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Everyone seems to love Ricciardo, so I know I’m in the minority, but I really find him to be a bad sport - both ungracious when he loses (there’s always an excuse as to why Max is the faster, if less consistent or more rash, driver), and when he wins he comes over (to me at least) as quite braggadocious.

In this case they had an agreement which their rules would dictate would benefit him in another race - if that doesn’t happen when Max is the lead car somewhere, then he has a right to complain.

In fairness to him though, DR has since backed down and accepted the team’s decision.

It is one thing to simply like him (I guess he is a likable personality), but it's another to objectively analyze his performance. If Max would have held his own and avoided the mistakes that he has done, Ric would have appeared like Kimi against Alonso in 2014.

Ric would have been expecting a call up from Merc and Ferrari to hire for 2019 onwards, but that seems to have faded and he is now expressing his frustrations.

[Edax]

I think Ric main point was that they were going for three runs and it would have been easy to do a 2:1 split in Q3 and have Ver take one for the team. That meant that RB would likely have been 5 & 6 on the grid.
A mature driver would have simply said sure and got on with the job trusting that his two attempts would have been more than enough to still be in front. A mature driver would have been thinking of a future championship where he may need help from a team mate one day.

A mature driver saw his partner screw him from behind in Baku and the world came down on him. A mature driver saw the media come after him, after a few mistakes AND then chose to play for himself. DISCIPLINE means DISCIPLINE.

A Strong driver doesn't need help from his team mate to win. A Strong driver goes out there and takes his best shot and put the car where probably it doesn't belong. A Strong driver doesn't trail his his immature team mate 6-3 in qualifying and 4-2 in races.

It was a team agreement as to who runs in front and it was made plain and simple by Horner. It was Ric who was struggling and couldn't match Max's pace and then chose not to do what was agreed. Why should Max help him, while he has been the one suffering the banters from audiences and press alike?

I think that is a bit harsh. But true RIC has put himself in a tough spot.

He tried to put himself in a championship winning position. However Bottas and Raikonen have picked up their performance. Renault and Mclaren are not showing the performance he needs. So there likely are no seats available next year.

And now Verstappen seems to have picked up on consistency, driving the point home that Ric lacks pace. Verstappen spilling points is his own doing, but the point remains that the 95% of the time that Verstappen is not doing something stupid he is considerably faster than RIC. So much that it becomes doubtfull that RIC would measure up against the best drivers in the field.

Bottom line is. Ric is demanding championship contender money, but his current performance does not seem to justify giving a seat away at that price. If he sticks with his demands I would not be surprised if there is no seat at all for him next year. Which would be a shame.

[MtthsMlw]

Alonso will start from the pitlane after changes in Parc fermé and he gets his third MGU-K.

[NathanOlder]

If Hamilton will be happy to see Bottas win then he needs to reconsider if he wants to give that seat up, he seems to have no fire inside whatsoever and the performances are showing it IMO.

Or Hamilton happy to see Bottas win, so Merc are happier with Bottas and retain him for another 2yrs, therefore Lewis wins a team mate he knows he can beat, Maybe its all part of the bigger picture from Lewis

[siskue2005]

Lol, Hamilton would love to see himself win. It helps his lead.

Unlike Ferrari and vettel.....Lewis does seem to be genuinely want Bottas to win...Remember Hungary 2017 perfect example of how selfish Vettel was and how selfless Lewis was.

I don't think Hamilton would have just moved over if he and the team where in the same situation as Vettel and Ferrari in Hungary 2017.

Did u see the race? Lewis moved over and gave up his podium and 3 points to Bottas