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Less than three months before the start of the 2011 FIA Formula One World Championship, there are still 4 seats available in the pinnacle of motorsport. At the moment, there are 3 new names on the grid in 2011: Jérôme D'Ambrosio, Sergio Pérez and Pastor Maldonado.
I don't think anyone claimed he hadn't made any mistakes.gridwalker wrote:No, of course not ... Alonso has never made any mistakes.
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But Massa also is not doing too much.raymondu999 wrote:To be fair usually in the past Alonso has never made many mistakes. This year he's probably done more mistakes than he ever has through his entire career
Also, that's quite some years ago. Alonso was still developing himself as a mature racing driver.Gerhard Berger wrote:gridwalker wrote:No, of course not ... Alonso has never made any mistakes.
I don't think anyone claimed he hadn't made any mistakes.
The thing with Button was (apart from 1 fluke win) he did nothing spectacular until MrM gifted Brawn the double diffuser.Giblet wrote:andrew wrote:Heidfeld has had his chance. He has been in F1 for for several years and a top team has yet to come knocking.
With an established driver like Raikkonen and an up and coming talen like Petrov (I don't care what anyone says about Petrov but there have been flashes of talent in his rookie season) loitering Heidfeld doesn't have a chance.
Many said the same thing about Jenson Button, but he had his chance with Brawn, and grabbed it with both hands winning the championship.
Heidfeld is a good enough driver to do the same thing with the right team. I can't see him doing any worse than Webber at Red Bull, or Button at Mclaren. I'm also quite sure he could be better in a Ferrari than Massa.
Like him or not, he can bring the car home consistently, and was able to be quite a challenge for the most part to the highly rated Kubica.
I could even see him doing a better job than that Schumacher character.
I guess I'm just saying that he hasn't really had his chance yet.
Button has always been good but was shadowed by the horrible performance of the Benetton/Renault and Honda Era cars. He was 3rd best in the BAR Honda behind the dominant 2004 Ferraris of Schu and Barr. 2005 was a transition in the B.A.R. management and team and the buyout of Honda in 2006 must've seemed like a step in the right direction. He was fairly consistent with a handful of podiums throughout the year and in 07/08 Honda lost complete face and was kicking about the back end until the Brawn buyout. I imagine the money was more the driving force in 07/08 than anything else.andrew wrote:The thing with Button was (apart from 1 fluke win) he did nothing spectacular until MrM gifted Brawn the double diffuser.Giblet wrote:andrew wrote:Heidfeld has had his chance. He has been in F1 for for several years and a top team has yet to come knocking.
With an established driver like Raikkonen and an up and coming talen like Petrov (I don't care what anyone says about Petrov but there have been flashes of talent in his rookie season) loitering Heidfeld doesn't have a chance.
Many said the same thing about Jenson Button, but he had his chance with Brawn, and grabbed it with both hands winning the championship.
Heidfeld is a good enough driver to do the same thing with the right team. I can't see him doing any worse than Webber at Red Bull, or Button at Mclaren. I'm also quite sure he could be better in a Ferrari than Massa.
Like him or not, he can bring the car home consistently, and was able to be quite a challenge for the most part to the highly rated Kubica.
I could even see him doing a better job than that Schumacher character.
I guess I'm just saying that he hasn't really had his chance yet.
Bringing the car home is fine for a midifield runner but given the alternative drivers available, I maintain that Heidfeld has had his chance. His future is in a testing role I feel.
Whether intended as an ironic hyperbole or simple sarcastic embelishment, I see no error in cresting a hill of what's esentially a blind corner at race speed and happening upon accident debris you've had little time to react to. Perhaps you should've found a mistake of his own doing. Fuji '07 maybe?gridwalker wrote:No, of course not ... Alonso has never made any mistakes.
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Pardon. What I meant was "has rarely made many mistakes"raymondu999 wrote:To be fair usually in the past Alonso has never made many mistakes. This year he's probably done more mistakes than he ever has through his entire career
My intention was a little of column A and a little of column B, plus a dash of wanting to ruffle the feathers of Alonso Fans, but there was a still BIG error in going through a blind corner at racing speeds under waved yellow conditions : I remember watching that race and there was plenty of time between Webber's initial accident and Alonso ploughing into the wreckage (Alonso was reprimanded, so the stewards obviously thought so too) but Alonso kept going at race pace regardless ...sknguy wrote:Whether intended as an ironic hyperbole or simple sarcastic embelishment, I see no error in cresting a hill of what's esentially a blind corner at race speed and happening upon accident debris you've had little time to react to.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87281Q. Another question to you all about the young driver test at Abu Dhabi. What drivers are you going to run there and are you evaluating them potentially for inclusion in the team?
FT: We will test in Abu Dhabi Jean-Eric Vergnes. He is a French driver, 20-years-old. He won this year the English Formula Three Championship and was also good in Silverstone when he raced in the Renault World Series. He won the first race and in the second race he finished second and I am very much looking forward to testing him in Abu Dhabi. But next year our driver line-up will be with Jaime Alguersuari and Sébastien Buemi.