Team: Adrian Newey (CTO), Petr Prodromou (CA), Rob Marshall (CD), Christian Horner (TP)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (1), Mark Webber (2), Sebastian Buemi (reserve)
raymondu999 wrote:Yes, DRS open through and through.Donuts wrote:Questions:
Did the RB8 go thru R130 with DRS activated in qualifying? What was the speed compared to the straight?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPWVZSVnXM[/youtube]
What makes me astounded is how stable the car is through the R130. Mercedes their DDRS takes away both rear and front downforce and thus respects the aero balance. Red Bull on the other hand reduces the rear downforce even more then normal. That car should be tricky to control, but it just looks so smooth. At turn 3 he enters the corner with DRS open and inside the corner he deactivates it. That car should be going wild there, but it remained relative at ease.raymondu999 wrote:Yes, DRS open through and through.Donuts wrote:Questions:
Did the RB8 go thru R130 with DRS activated in qualifying? What was the speed compared to the straight?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPWVZSVnXM[/youtube]
It sometimes is, but not always. Usually they are in sync. Here it appears in sync.kris wrote:I thought it was mentioned somewhere in these forums that graphics were out of sync with the car feed. So was the DRS really active?
Run what like what? DRS? In qualifying, given that you still have enough grip, any DRS-open time will be giving you free laptime, basically.Donuts wrote:I'm a bit puzelled to why they would run it like that (in curves). I have to think about this. Any clue?
Insane driving. Almost no steering corrections. It looks so easy und unspectacular.raymondu999 wrote:Yes, DRS open through and through.Donuts wrote:Questions:
Did the RB8 go thru R130 with DRS activated in qualifying? What was the speed compared to the straight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPWVZSVnXM
I think he just uses that as a last resort. Jumping kerbs and taking grass as he did last year is very risky, though it pays off as you cut corners more and have more open exits.timbo wrote:Interesting that last year he literally got pole time in the final chicane by jumping that kerb very deep, and this year he completely ignored kerb on the first apex and just slightly clipped second.
Maybe Newey once again, takes heat, then everyone realizes he choose the "best" path with the sidepod/exhaust solutiondren wrote:Maybe the blown diffuser on this Red Bull is that much better than the field?
I think the fact that every other team has cut their losses with their original solution and switched to the McLaren style exits (including Sauber who kind of pioneered the ramp style solution that RBR has persisted with) points to this not being the case. The 3 or 4 races they struggled whilst desperately trying to get their tunnel to work earlier in the season (which wouldn't have been a problem with other solutions) also can't be forgotten. You can't help but wonder what state the title race would be in if they had gotten around that issue quicker!Nando wrote:Maybe Newey once again, takes heat, then everyone realizes he choose the "best" path with the sidepod/exhaust solutiondren wrote:Maybe the blown diffuser on this Red Bull is that much better than the field?
Hmm, well I understand that, but I was puzzeled beacuse someone wrote that they were top ten in top speed on the straight. But maybe that's not correct? Would'nt that mean a big change to balance in high speed corners? To bad we can't have a comparison in qualifying of a lap with and one without the DRS.raymondu999 wrote:Run what like what? DRS? In qualifying, given that you still have enough grip, any DRS-open time will be giving you free laptime, basically.Donuts wrote:I'm a bit puzelled to why they would run it like that (in curves). I have to think about this. Any clue?
I wouldn't discount the possibility that the early runs did actually work as expected, and that they were leaving the ace up in sleeve for this moment - 6 races in 7 weekends, end of the season, the time when it really matters, others may simply have no time to copy, implement, test and tweak itJackles-UK wrote: I think the fact that every other team has cut their losses with their original solution and switched to the McLaren style exits (including Sauber who kind of pioneered the ramp style solution that RBR has persisted with) points to this not being the case. The 3 or 4 races they struggled whilst desperately trying to get their tunnel to work earlier in the season (which wouldn't have been a problem with other solutions) also can't be forgotten. You can't help but wonder what state the title race would be in if they had gotten around that issue quicker!
That being said, not spending all that time focused on extracting what little extra exhaust gains can be made and spending time developing other avenues does seem to be finally paying dividends when it really matters.
