[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Pretty crazy how Norris was suddenly seconds faster after passing Stroll. Catching Ocon nearly one second a lap.

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M840TR wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 09:39
Pretty crazy how Norris was suddenly seconds faster after passing Stroll. Catching Ocon nearly one second a lap.
Perhaps they took a chance and at the end of the race they turned the engine into a more powerful mode. It looks like Lando's tires were in good condition as well.

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_cerber1 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 10:18
M840TR wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 09:39
Pretty crazy how Norris was suddenly seconds faster after passing Stroll. Catching Ocon nearly one second a lap.
Perhaps they took a chance and at the end of the race they turned the engine into a more powerful mode. It looks like Lando's tires were in good condition as well.
Not as much as usual. They were being cautious after Carlos's PU failure. They let him use Scenario-7 but only for a little bit after several warnings about not using it. The tire deg was probably the most crucial factor.

Let's see how Monza turns out. They have several updates like the sidepod deflectors but so will other teams. If they get both cars to the end reliably, I believe they can split the Renaults; but it's a steep hill.

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I really hope McLaren have something in the pipeline to sort out the low speed issue. Like Lando mentioned, even in their low downforce config, Renault are still good in the low speed corners.
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Ground Effect wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 12:41
I really hope McLaren have something in the pipeline to sort out the low speed issue. Like Lando mentioned, even in their low downforce config, Renault are still good in the low speed corners.
As far as I know, downforce isn't very significant on low-speed corners (unless you have a blown diffuser) because you aren't going that fast. It's mostly down to the mechanical grip. Suspension layout and behavior should play a bigger role. They must come up with some clever hydraulic tricks to help shift the car weight according to the corner.
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Emag wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 12:48
As far as I know, downforce isn't very significant on low-speed corners (unless you have a blown diffuser) because you aren't going that fast. It's mostly down to the mechanical grip. Suspension layout and behavior should play a bigger role. They must come up with some clever hydraulic tricks to help shift the car weight according to the corner.
Maybe they shouldn't have given up on POU?

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Don't know what can be taken from these results or performances as half the field were preparing for rain in some form and the other half winding off as much they could get away with and still get around the corners.
Renault looked a far better car than Mclaren, but had even light rain fallen I feel sure the Mclaren would have easily overhauled them, even if they managed to stay on track.

I don't think much can be made of it without including the setup.

Speed = Danny Ric 312.6 and Norris 310.8 and Ric 234.3 to Nor 234.4 at the finish line. Ric obviously more slippery at higher speed.
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I posted this in our car thread but no one it’s bothering to respond and we seem to be talking about it in this thread.

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31 Aug 2020, 09:13
I read this on Friday:

Andrea Stella, Racing Director

“We’ve had a productive Friday. The rain that was expected at some stage didn’t show up, so we were able to run consistently with both cars and get through the programme. Today, that involved assessing some aerodynamic and mechanical parts being introduced at this race, and, of course, understanding the tyres – in case it’s a dry race.’’

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... NlfPf.html

Does anyone have any idea what these mechanical parts might be? As we are aware it’s this side of the chassis we are lagging behind now but during the race at Spa I would say we had good tyre life at the end of the stint compared to TP but not necessarily Renault though (who I don’t support by the way :roll: ).
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I don't think they will tell us what the details were. The main thing is that the team is happy with them.

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Also another drawback to all this Covid 19 social distancing that’s going on- we don’t have the eagle eyed journos in the pit lane spotting updates on the cars it’s most noticeable when there’s ‘mechanical updates’ on the car and there’s no one/ picture to show us. Has anyone notice this too?
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CjC wrote:Also another drawback to all this Covid 19 social distancing that’s going on- we don’t have the eagle eyed journos in the pit lane spotting updates on the cars it’s most noticeable when there’s ‘mechanical updates’ on the car and there’s no one/ picture to show us. Has anyone notice this too?
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It just goes to show that you can run decent rake and have a good low speed performance. It’s been the Achilles heel of the MCL34 and still a weakness in the MCL35.
Suspension kinematics and layout presumably the biggest influences on that performance and perhaps CofG height.
I sincerely hope we can make progress in the slow speed. Medium to High speed the car is v good.

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Big Tea wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 13:52
Don't know what can be taken from these results or performances as half the field were preparing for rain in some form and the other half winding off as much they could get away with and still get around the corners.
Renault looked a far better car than Mclaren, but had even light rain fallen I feel sure the Mclaren would have easily overhauled them, even if they managed to stay on track.

I don't think much can be made of it without including the setup.

Speed = Danny Ric 312.6 and Norris 310.8 and Ric 234.3 to Nor 234.4 at the finish line. Ric obviously more slippery at higher speed.
It makes sense but Ocon had said in an interview prior to the race, that the main issue with the Renault is the amount of drag required for their downforce. I was surprised by the pace of the Renaults but would like to think that if we didn't have the engine issues we had the pace to finish ahead.
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MCL35 is a much more balanced car than Renault's and RP's cars. Goes well in high and low downforce tracks and keep scoring.

I have confidence we'll outscore them and be WCC P3.
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willmesquita wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 16:38
MCL35 is a much more balanced car than Renault's and RP's cars. Goes well in high and low downforce tracks and keep scoring.

I have confidence we'll outscore them and be WCC P3.
Rp seems to have more raw speed but it looks like they struugle with setup to unlock it