2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

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RicerDude wrote:
Juzh wrote:
atanatizante wrote: On the incident side, when it came to being lucky or unlucky in this race : at the last lap Alonso and Vettel had the EXACT same incident, but the latter escaped unhurt and Lewis didn't ...
Yep, just saw that. It's a miracle vettel's tyre stayed intact.
Vettel got hit on the tred of tyre which is obviously much thicker. Hamilton was hit on the sidewall.
Can't be, people around here are claiming that Rosberg's front wing wasn't alongside Hamilton.

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dans79 wrote:
Jano11 wrote: As said before he was alongside Hamilton who just cut over the front wing of his team mate. Racing incident is what this used to be called before keyboard warriors took over discussion boards on the internet.
That's an interesting point of view, to bad the people who matter (Lauda, Wolff) obviously don't agree with it.
FIA stewards do, I'll take that.

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Jano11 wrote:
SectorOne wrote:
Jano11 wrote:As said before he was alongside Hamilton who just cut over the front wing of his team mate.
This is a lie.
Did you read the rules and how being alongside is defined?
No? I didn't expect it either given your angry and not reasoned posts.
Now show me why stating the truth is a lie, or keep it for yourself next time. calling others liars needs proof or otherwise I might just ask my lawyer to send you a nice letter, he's getting his paycheck every month, might as well do some work for it.
What silly piece of an idiot here. First time I am reading someone threatening legal stuff here.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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cossie wrote:Watched the incident a few times, Hamilton is as much to blame as Nico. Nico held his line, Hamilton shoot to the outside to slam the door and misjudged it.
Or taking the racing line, like he is meant to. It was a right to a left hander :D
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zeph wrote:Whoa, nice amateur move by ROS.
I said it before and I'll say it again, clumsy driving by Rosberg which unfortunately worked out really well for him and really bad for Hamilton.

But I don't think a penalty was needed, it is still just a racing incident, even if it turned into a major advantage for him.


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Jano11 wrote:Did you read the rules and how being alongside is defined?
Yes i have. Rosberg is still at fault, that´s why multiple race winners, professional racing drivers, and a three time world champion is all blaming it on the same person.

But then again, keep trolling but you just won´t impose your lies on people with fully functional eyes.

Jano11 wrote:Now show me why stating the truth is a lie, or keep it for yourself next time.
No what you need to do is have surgery. Then you need to actually watch the incident.
Jano11 wrote:I might just ask my lawyer to send you a nice letter, he's getting his paycheck every month, might as well do some work for it.
I agree. Please do liar. He´s robbing you every month as well so yes, he probably should do some work by now.

You´re a misinformant, period.
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Jano11 wrote:
SectorOne wrote:
Jano11 wrote:As said before he was alongside Hamilton who just cut over the front wing of his team mate.
This is a lie.
Did you read the rules and how being alongside is defined?
No? I didn't expect it either given your angry and not reasoned posts.
Now show me why stating the truth is a lie, or keep it for yourself next time. calling others liars needs proof or otherwise I might just ask my lawyer to send you a nice letter, he's getting his paycheck every month, might as well do some work for it.
Your application of the rule is faulty. Its basically impossible to have a fair race with your interpretation. He was never significantly alongside on the inside, only on the outside, you cant apply that rule there, and no one ever does.

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NathanOlder wrote:
Jano11 wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:So how many recent examples have we got of people getting penalties for giving someone a puncture ?
you might also want to remember that not so long ago the FIA stewards were asked to be more lenient in racing incidents, due to fans complaining. You can't have it both ways, it's as simple as that.
True, But I was never a fan asking for leniency . So my opinion of Rosberg requiring a penalty remains
That doesn't change a thing.

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Jano11 wrote:
dans79 wrote:
That's an interesting point of view, to bad the people who matter (Lauda, Wolff) obviously don't agree with it.
FIA stewards do, I'll take that.
Lol, the stewards have and always will be a joke.
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dans79 wrote:wtf, I just saw the post race paddock interview, and Nico is doing himself no favors by making the booing about nationality.
The worse part of this is that he is right.

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Who is the standby driver for Mercedes?
Would they impose their own penalty on Rosberg?

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ChrisM40 wrote:Davidson on Sky F1 proved Hamilton stayed on the racing line the entire time.
Nobody disagrees with that. So let me repeat it for you before being called a liar again for posting a video and a quote from the rules :wtf:: Hamilton stayed on the racing line the entire time.

However: The racing line over the kerb that he choose left no space at all for a driver that was alongside of him. ROS could have given up, or HAM could have left just enough space and won the next corner. Instead, ROS decided to stay right there and HAM decided to close the door very hard. That combination lost Mercedes a 1-2 and it is the fault of both their drivers.

And in some ways I really enjoyed watching that since we might now have much more of a fight with Ricciardo at the end which is more exciting to watch than two Mercedes cars storming off into the distance =D>

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Jano11 wrote:
Can't be, people around here are claiming that Rosberg's front wing wasn't alongside Hamilton.

Alongside doesnt mean, front wing inside rear wheel. Its got to be atleast Front Wheel next to rear wheel
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NTS wrote:ROS could have given up
Should.
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NTS wrote:
ChrisM40 wrote:Davidson on Sky F1 proved Hamilton stayed on the racing line the entire time.
Nobody disagrees with that. So let me repeat it for you before being called a liar again for posting a video and a quote from the rules :wtf:: Hamilton stayed on the racing line the entire time.

However: The racing line over the kerb that he choose left no space at all for a driver that was alongside of him. ROS could have given up, or HAM could have left just enough space and won the next corner. Instead, ROS decided to stay right there and HAM decided to close the door very hard. That combination lost Mercedes a 1-2 and it is the fault of both their drivers.

And in some ways I really enjoyed watching that since we might now have much more of a fight with Ricciardo at the end which is more exciting to watch than two Mercedes cars storming off into the distance =D>
Nico was NOT alongside him, it was all over well before the left hander. At the right hander at the end of the straight the rule is not applicable. You understand that right? You really dont seem to.

To pass on the outside you have to be actually past, not 3/4 of a car length behind.