2016 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, 22-24 July

[dans79]

https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status ... 5503352832

[siskue2005]

What is the weather forecast for tomorrow?
Will it be dry or will it be like today?

Hot and a bit cloudy, with basically zero chance of rain.

So we are in for a boring race

[GrizzleBoy]

No mention on actual speed, or anything to do with sector times.

http://www.eurosport.com/formula-1/f1-d ... tory.shtml

They have been told by F1 race director Charlie Whiting that they must now slow down by 0.2 seconds compared to their best sector time for single yellow flags, and 0.5s for double waved yellows.

So Nico needed to be half a sec slower in S2 according to race director.

What part of S2 did Nico slow down by that much, while still going purple?

I dont understand this at all....

[proteus]

He drove into the sector with yelow flag, he slowed down a bit (u can hear the engine rewing down) and continuied flat out again with no yelows in sight. As i saw it, yelows were only on for that fraction of a second and he fulfilled that fraction, from than on there was no yelow anymore and as i understand no need for slowing down or being 0.5sec slower. U can see it at 0:50 on F1.com: http://www.formula1.com/en/video/2016/7 ... _2016.html
The yelow was not on long enough to count as a whole sector.

[FoxHound]

I get what you are saying, but would Rosberg also not have a point in saying the corner was clear?

If I role through a 4 way stop because I didn't see anyone, I'm still going to get a ticket if a cop sees me.

You can't have grey area with stuff like this, it must be black and white. Anything less invites teams & drivers to bend the rules.

As I've said, i see what you and others are saying. But, Rosberg lifted and if this is verified then who can argue that he did not "slow down".
If the conditions were so dangerous, why did they not implement a VSC? Perhaps because the corner was already clear and the danger had passed. I concur it was not a decision for Rosberg to make, but again, if he lifted he "slowed down".
I guess that's why this is taking so long, the FIA will be running the rule over his previous laps and see if it was a lift relative his pole lap.

If it came down to the sector times in the link you posted, he would already have been DQ'd.

[Shrieker]

If he is not even under investigation, that's another fXck up by the FIA and that sets a dangerous precedent...

[siskue2005]

He drove into the sector with yelow flag, he slowed down a bit (u can hear the engine rewing down) and continuied flat out again with no yelows in sight. As i saw it, yelows were only on for that fraction of a second and he fulfilled that fraction, from than on there was no yelow anymore and as i understand no need for slowing down or being 0.5sec slower. U can see it at 0:50 on F1.com: http://www.formula1.com/en/video/2016/7 ... _2016.html
The yelow was not on long enough to count as a whole sector.

There were double yellows even after the corner!

[Sevach]

2 things need to be separated here.

1- Rosberg was lucky.

2- The signal right after the turn where Alonso spun was already clear, so he got right back up to speed after 2 slow corners, and there's no reason why he shouldn't.

[turbof1]

If it came down to the sector times in the link you posted, he would already have been DQ'd.

The problem here is you are dealing probably with a technical directive from Charlie Whiting, which is often considered an opinion and has less regulatory power (it has some, but it's not black and white).

I do agree if the FIA or stewards were atleast considering it, we would have news by now it is under investigation.

[dans79]

There were double yellows even after the corner!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lmrd ... OSFAIL.jpg

I missed that, and that makes it even worse, because he should have been going slowly during the entire short shoot.

[FoxHound]

If it came down to the sector times in the link you posted, he would already have been DQ'd.

The problem here is you are dealing probably with a technical directive from Charlie Whiting, which is often considered an opinion and has less regulatory power (it has some, but it's not black and white).

I do agree if the FIA or stewards were atleast considering it, we would have news by now it is under investigation.

Well, as Sevach posted, Rosberg was lucky in so far as the car was clear by the time he went through and that he could clearly see it.
Not much in it, but I think a penalty would be harsh. And it would spoil any semblance of a race or Ham/Ros crash.

[Shrieker]

Hamilton is much faster on this track. I think at any point it comes to a head to head on track scrap, Roesberg would crash rather than lose out to him.

[FoxHound]

Hamilton is much faster on this track. I think at any point it comes to a head to head on track scrap, Roesberg would crash rather than lose out to him.

In any event, a penalty would make the race largely redundant unless the Red Bull's can keep up with Ham.

[siskue2005]

There were double yellows even after the corner!

I missed that, and that makes it even worse, because he should have been going slowly during the entire short shoot.

Exactly, how can he go that fast in 2 corners with 2 double yellows is beyond me,,....then again we know FIA are born cheaters....they want a particular person to win and they do whatever they can to make that happen. As a Schumy fan I hate to admit it was the same with him as we all know about FIAerri etc.
Then again cheaters never prosper.

[iotar__]

Hamilton is much faster on this track. I think at any point it comes to a head to head on track scrap, Roesberg would crash rather than lose out to him.

If reality doesn't agree with you... He was so much quicker that he was lucky he got through Q2.

- Brilliant through traffic risky pole, Rosberg was quicker anyway
- Horner should focus on how to spin that his new Senna/Vettel/Alonso is again slower and 1:6 in qualifying against Ricciardo. It's easier to decide race wins than to make someone quicker. Much harder to hype if it was Ricciardo with 2 wins.