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i dont think it has been posted, but some dirt shows a nice flow

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DiogoBrand wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 03:46


I'm not sure you need a slot between each support. There may be some loophole that allows support pieces without compromising the floor perimeter.
Really ? I thought any loopholes were well and truely shut. Be interesting to know exactly how this one turns out. Like a few have said, It looks completely illegal :?
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The rules in that regard haven't changed. Section 3.7.9 of the rules defines a continuous line visible from beneath the car. The supports are no part of that because they are not visible. Note that the rules use projections when defining things and all we see is pictures with perspective giving the impressions of holes. A hole is something that would show up as something allowing to see through the projection. When projected things will just overlap to form one big surface and thus confirm to the rule of no holes. The second aspect of importance is the continuous line and that is easily fixed with a cut as shown before which would make it legal. I even doubt it is an issue. If the middle part, the one separating the two slots is connected correctly at the front using the same trick as stated above it would be legal as well.

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Jef Patat wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 11:41
The rules in that regard haven't changed. Section 3.7.9 of the rules defines a continuous line visible from beneath the car. The supports are no part of that because they are not visible. Note that the rules use projections when defining things and all we see is pictures with perspective giving the impressions of holes. A hole is something that would show up as something allowing to see through the projection. When projected things will just overlap to form one big surface and thus confirm to the rule of no holes. The second aspect of importance is the continuous line and that is easily fixed with a cut as shown before which would make it legal. I even doubt it is an issue. If the middle part, the one separating the two slots is connected correctly at the front using the same trick as stated above it would be legal as well.
But note that the rule applies to the area 700mm or less from the car centre plane. This leaves the outer 100mm of the floor out of this rule.

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miguelbento wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 11:53
Jef Patat wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 11:41
The rules in that regard haven't changed. Section 3.7.9 of the rules defines a continuous line visible from beneath the car. The supports are no part of that because they are not visible. Note that the rules use projections when defining things and all we see is pictures with perspective giving the impressions of holes. A hole is something that would show up as something allowing to see through the projection. When projected things will just overlap to form one big surface and thus confirm to the rule of no holes. The second aspect of importance is the continuous line and that is easily fixed with a cut as shown before which would make it legal. I even doubt it is an issue. If the middle part, the one separating the two slots is connected correctly at the front using the same trick as stated above it would be legal as well.
But note that the rule applies to the area 700mm or less from the car centre plane. This leaves the outer 100mm of the floor out of this rule.
This is what I thought, at the edges they can do what they want?
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Must have been changed from last year then. I remember several teams adding cuts to make the slots legal last year. :?:

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f1rules wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 08:56
i dont think it has been posted, but some dirt shows a nice flow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXMy4DvX0AApleR.jpg:large

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
Definitely my favourite car aerodynamically. They and Red Bull are the only teams that seem to feed the rear of the coke-bottle (under the cooling outlets) entirely from the top surface of the pods. Y250/barge-board air exclusively used to seal the outer edge of the floor and control flow along the inner edge of the tire/diffuser extremities.

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TJ13: 2018 Rules:
Front axle
Ferrari started it. Red Bull, Renault and McLaren have mimicked it. The geometry of the front axle was designed in such a way that the front of the car was lowered in accordance with the steering angle. This ensured that the front wing edges closer to the track, while cornering, which generates more downforce. Since this clearly has an impact on aerodynamics, the FIA ​​put a stop to this technique. Today a car, at a 12 degrees steering angle, isn’t allowed to sink forward more than five millimeters. This will be measured on a purpose build platform.

But experts believe that this ground clearance changes more on the racetrack than it does on the measurement platform, if you just do it skillfully. They think that the geometry of the front suspension of the new McLaren MCL33, which substantiates this suspicion with its extreme placement of the push-rods, is build with such a trick in mind. Charlie Whiting has already commented that if they see that the steering angle in reality exceeds 12 degrees, they will modify the test.
Hope it works !!

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Love this picture !!! The Rake !!!

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yeah its really nice, here from the other side
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ncassi22 wrote:
03 Mar 2018, 07:38
f1rules wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 08:56
i dont think it has been posted, but some dirt shows a nice flow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXMy4DvX0AApleR.jpg:large

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
Definitely my favourite car aerodynamically. They and Red Bull are the only teams that seem to feed the rear of the coke-bottle (under the cooling outlets) entirely from the top surface of the pods. Y250/barge-board air exclusively used to seal the outer edge of the floor and control flow along the inner edge of the tire/diffuser extremities.

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bauc wrote:
01 Mar 2018, 15:11
@Goran F1, yes you can check the launch photos, its there
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Tech insight - McLaren’s aggressive rear suspension design
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tech ... est-1.html

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brighter version of this last photo forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27061&start=300#p742942

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very clean wishbone area and some details of the rear diffuser

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What is that "triangular" silver thing in the middle of bargeboard ?

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probably a reflection on a piece of coated carbon fiber