McLaren MP4-12C

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But that can easily be fixed, take some of the heavy restrictions off the turbo cars.
More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:But that can easily be fixed, take some of the heavy restrictions off the turbo cars.
I can really see this happening. Blown small displacement cars are seen as the future of the car industry. F1's done it. WRC are doing it. Lemans & GT will be next. Yes i get the point with durability, but maybe this is down to lack of investment in turbo engines with teams opting for larger N/A motors. Turbo, compounding, hybrid....The next level of evolution?

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Looks like the V8 will be sufficient...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/stillatt ... -mind.aspx

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I have driven the MP4-12C and I must say that it performs way better than the 458 Italia...

Of course Im talking about PS3 GT5 here :D
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Richied76 wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:But that can easily be fixed, take some of the heavy restrictions off the turbo cars.
I can really see this happening. Blown small displacement cars are seen as the future of the car industry. F1's done it. WRC are doing it. Lemans & GT will be next. Yes i get the point with durability, but maybe this is down to lack of investment in turbo engines with teams opting for larger N/A motors. Turbo, compounding, hybrid....The next level of evolution?
There is a SAE paper by Garrett (Honeywell) on turbocharged endurance racing engines where they claim that the reliability record for turbocharged racing engines on Le Mans is better than for naturally aspiranted engines. The same output but with lower revs and displacement leads to less stress and better reliability according to this paper.

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Belatti wrote:I have driven the MP4-12C and I must say that it performs way better than the 458 Italia...

Of course Im talking about PS3 GT5 here :D
How strange. I thought it was an undrivable turbo dog. Tried it at the Ring and gave up by the time I got to Aremberg :?

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Pandamasque wrote:How strange. I thought it was an undrivable turbo dog. Tried it at the Ring and gave up by the time I got to Aremberg :?
User error?

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Could be. I'll give it another try.

GT5 thread: viewtopic.php?p=222929#p222929
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Try again, the car is one of the more docile of the "big beasts". Strangely i found things i didnt expected, like lotus elise, that should be a pleasure to drive, as an oversteering crap
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Let's hear from those who have driven the real thing...

Autocar says:
...you’ll never look at the Ferrari 458 or Lamborghini Gallardo in the same light ever again.
Car says:
Quite simply, this is the most complete supercar the world has ever seen. Quicker than a McLaren F1, easier to live with than an Audi R8 and more economical than a BMW M3...
The Daily Mail says:
The only real flaw we can find with the MP4-12C is its flawlessness. It's like a child prodigy; generally begotten by hyper-ambitious parents, staggering in its abilities, perfect in its behaviour, but oddly cool and aloof, and difficult to warm to.
I'd say they like it. :wink:

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Belatti wrote:Try again, the car is one of the more docile of the "big beasts". Strangely i found things i didnt expected, like lotus elise, that should be a pleasure to drive, as an oversteering crap
Exactly what I found. Loved the McLaren, best car I've driven in that game in terms of overall handling relative to performance.

And I too found the Lotus Elise to be undrivable. Hated that Top Gear test track race with them, just got horrid oversteer all over the place. Could control it in most places but the snap oversteer in faster corners was horrific.

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Pup wrote:Let's hear from those who have driven the real thing...

Autocar says:
...you’ll never look at the Ferrari 458 or Lamborghini Gallardo in the same light ever again.
Car says:
Quite simply, this is the most complete supercar the world has ever seen. Quicker than a McLaren F1, easier to live with than an Audi R8 and more economical than a BMW M3...
The Daily Mail says:
The only real flaw we can find with the MP4-12C is its flawlessness. It's like a child prodigy; generally begotten by hyper-ambitious parents, staggering in its abilities, perfect in its behaviour, but oddly cool and aloof, and difficult to warm to.
I'd say they like it. :wink:
Top Gear magazine found the same thing: http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mcla ... 2011-02-14

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myurr wrote:
Belatti wrote: And I too found the Lotus Elise to be undrivable. Hated that Top Gear test track race with them, just got horrid oversteer all over the place. Could control it in most places but the snap oversteer in faster corners was horrific.
Thanks to PD for equipping the Elise in that race with comfort medium tire....they are already snappy and trick to drive with Sports Hard and downgrading the tire on that was a cruel joke...

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:lol: this is getting OOT

shall we create a topic "car handling: rality vs GT5" ? We know Jeremy could not beat himself in Laguna Seca with the NSX vs GT4... we know tha McLaren is good but did polyphony guys tested it back in 2010?

You know, I could tame the Elise in the curves and pass the TopGear test track, but the tricky stuff was that I trial brake a lot, so after the "straight" braking I had to turn in and immediately coutersteer the thing into the corner :wink:
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Pandamasque wrote:GT5 thread: viewtopic.php?p=222929#p222929