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RTL confronted Michael with the observation made by Danner suggesting a DRS woe again and asked specifically if the DRS was not operative.
Schumacher replied grinning with the words -then he knows more than I do ,as I have not even tried to use DRS...

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RTL confronted Michael with the observation made by Danner suggesting a DRS woe again and asked specifically if the DRS was not operative.
Schumacher replied grinning with the words -then he knows more than I do ,as I have not even tried to use DRS...

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W03 has shown a good bit of potential today. I believe they have a long way to go in terms of finding an optimal setup with this essentially overhauled chassis.

Can anyone confirm current to previous rake with a new vs old photo? I have been unable to find a suitable profile pic so to can compare. The front wing especially looks as if it's running more rake, it's visibly obvious.

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Ferraripilot wrote:W03 has shown a good bit of potential today. I believe they have a long way to go in terms of finding an optimal setup with this essentially overhauled chassis.

Can anyone confirm current to previous rake with a new vs old photo? I have been unable to find a suitable profile pic so to can compare. The front wing especially looks as if it's running more rake, it's visibly obvious.
Hell it took Ferrari a hand full of races after preseason testing to get their exhaust working. Just the fact that Mercedes is racing with it this weekend is promising.
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mantikos wrote:
Adamski wrote:As what I have read about the Coanda effect and this type of exhaust, it could be a big help for the Mercedes W03. But the other side of the coin is that a little mistake can lead to a big blow in terms of performance.

After only a bit more than 1000 km, how we could wait from the team, that it will work on a totally different track, on a totally different layout and in a totally different atmosphere. I think they are gone wrong whit it's fine tuning now and it kills their tires even more when they run their previous exhaust layout.

But since we know Mike Elliot is in the team, it's visible that most of the car's main aero devices were redesigned or upgraded. I think only the diffuser and the rear wing is still too simple compared to the top teams. Wait and see if they will come up in these areas with something new to make full use of this Coanda ---.
Diffuser maybe, rear wing is actually pretty good
How do you come to this conclusion? None of us know quite how good or bad any individual wing is.
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Ferraripilot wrote:W03 has shown a good bit of potential today. I believe they have a long way to go in terms of finding an optimal setup with this essentially overhauled chassis.

Can anyone confirm current to previous rake with a new vs old photo? I have been unable to find a suitable profile pic so to can compare. The front wing especially looks as if it's running more rake, it's visibly obvious.
You can't actually compare the rake teams running in this race compared to the other races because of the bumpiness of the track so in Singapore them tend to use more take to prevent the car from spunning after going across the bump

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Given how major these updates are, along with the yet-to-be-raced 3DRS and others still in the pipeline, it's understandable that the team will need a few more races before they fully unlock the potential of these upgrades. They should finally be ready to win again by the season's 23rd race...

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well-even Sauber has dificulty to make their new update work-admittedly it was their 4th or 5th big update this year so it ´s save to say even them cannot claim to nail it every time.
For MGP i´d say they just lack a bit of practise when it comes to making updates work ,as this is feeling like only the 4 th(update) in three years or something?

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good upgrades ... maybe at Suzuka they can do more .... especially Rosberg .... Michael get another 5-10 places penalty =D>

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I could actually see some significant improvement in tyre degradation in Singapore as the Lotus are unable to overtake the Mercedes during the whole course of the race

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NonNewtonic wrote:I could actually see some significant improvement in tyre degradation in Singapore as the Lotus are unable to overtake the Mercedes during the whole course of the race
There was no pre-upgrade drop off which is promising. The team have already said there is more to come in terms of honing the Coanda exhaust, and also for the team and driver to be acclimatised to the system.
I read on another forum we could see a revised diffuser, or at the very least a lightly modified diffuser to further help with the rear end grip, and to dovetail with the exhaust concept. It is specualtive, but at least we can see it opens up avenues in terms of development for this car, and the teams understanding of the tyres.
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FoxHound wrote:
NonNewtonic wrote:I could actually see some significant improvement in tyre degradation in Singapore as the Lotus are unable to overtake the Mercedes during the whole course of the race
There was no pre-upgrade drop off which is promising. The team have already said there is more to come in terms of honing the Coanda exhaust, and also for the team and driver to be acclimatised to the system.
I read on another forum we could see a revised diffuser, or at the very least a lightly modified diffuser to further help with the rear end grip, and to dovetail with the exhaust concept. It is specualtive, but at least we can see it opens up avenues in terms of development for this car, and the teams understanding of the tyres.
Good thing about this development, as Gary Anderson pointed out - is that it WILL be carried into 2013, and yes, about the Diffuser, Gary said that there is an updated one coming, but they couldn't use it on this track as there was no real benefit

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It's a shame that only Rosberg was able to finish the race. They really needed to have some data to compare and contrast in order to optimize the updates for Suzuka.

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Pierce89 wrote:
mantikos wrote:
Adamski wrote:As what I have read about the Coanda effect and this type of exhaust, it could be a big help for the Mercedes W03. But the other side of the coin is that a little mistake can lead to a big blow in terms of performance.

After only a bit more than 1000 km, how we could wait from the team, that it will work on a totally different track, on a totally different layout and in a totally different atmosphere. I think they are gone wrong whit it's fine tuning now and it kills their tires even more when they run their previous exhaust layout.

But since we know Mike Elliot is in the team, it's visible that most of the car's main aero devices were redesigned or upgraded. I think only the diffuser and the rear wing is still too simple compared to the top teams. Wait and see if they will come up in these areas with something new to make full use of this Coanda ---.
Diffuser maybe, rear wing is actually pretty good
How do you come to this conclusion? None of us know quite how good or bad any individual wing is.
Look at the top team's wings, those are much more complicated and curved, especially at the lower regions. Of course the more it is complicated the more harder to set it up and make the best of it, but it is also a sign that you are working on it and trying to make it better.

Merc do not fine tune it although they should do it as they are changing the car's other parts which means the airflow changed more or less around the back of the car.

I'm very confident we will see an upgraded rear wing from Merc in the next couple of races and as I read the new diffuser now confirmed.
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Rosberg says there is more to come from the exhaust upgrade.

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