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Fallows gives his thoughts:

"We did have a very good start to the season, and we've obviously been disappointed with the way it's panned out in recent races, but this experience has enabled us to learn some valuable lessons which we're trying to take into next year – we can see where we went wrong in terms of upsetting the car balance. We've understood why that's hurt our overall performance. Now, it's a question of making sure that we don't make the same mistakes again; it’s certainly been a year of learning."

“In some ways its a shame that it's a Sprint weekend because we’d like to have more time to dial in those updates and see how the cars will perform. It will be a big challenge to gain that understanding as early as possible. We're looking forward to seeing how these upgrades perform and, hopefully, it's a track where we should be reasonably competitive if we can get everything right."

"The upcoming triple header and the months beyond are a really exciting time for the team. We've come a long way and the progress has been clear to see on the track and at our new Technology Campus. It's a testament to the team's ambition and how far we've come that we are disappointed by our results in recent races. That only serves to motivate us, and the work of everybody at our Campus is evidence of that. We're starting to see real possibilities of achieving the goals we've set for ourselves in the long term."
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AR3-GP wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 19:07
Is “sidewalk” the sidepod or the floor edge?
That's actually a good question. A person back in September said it was going to be "floor and sidepods" but sidepods could have been a mistranslation and instead it could be floor edge. The floor part seems real at least.

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issey wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 19:29
So again nothing in America?lol

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 20:06
issey wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 19:29
So again nothing in America?lol
F1 | Aston Martin: a new floor to climb back up in Austin.
The Silverstone team in the U.S GP introduces a new aerodynamic package recognizable by some changes to the (floor edge?) and the introduction of a newly designed bargeboard alongside the Venturi channels. The intention is to make a qualitative leap that will bring the "verdona" back to the glories of the beginning of the season when it seemed that Alonso was the challenger of the Red Bulls, while the AMR23 seems to have lost the polish of the first GPs.

Aston Martin is in a vertical fall: until the beginning of the summer it was the second force in the world championship, deserving the role of surprise in the championship, but the Silverstone team then failed to show the solidity that had allowed Fernando Alonso to string together a series of podium performances (five third places in a row, followed by the Monaco runner-up spot, then confirmed in Canada) that had propelled him to third place in the drivers' world championship standings. The scepter of revelation team, then, was cleverly "snatched" by McLaren, which was able to rival Max Verstappen's Red Bull in Qatar.

In Lawrence's team they are certainly paying for the lack of consistency of Lance who is now a shadow of his former self. The Canadian is probably still suffering the aftermath of the very hard crash in Singapore GP qualifying, although Stroll jr had emerged from the carambole at the last corner without any particular physical consequences, while the psychological effects have lingered longer.

Aston Martin collects points with regularity only with the Asturian, so McLaren's resounding comeback with a two-pronged attack, formed by Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri, brought the Woking team to just 11 points when there are still five GPs to go and two will also have the Sprint race format.

In Austin, the "verdona" wants to try to reverse a trend: on the AMR23 there will be a package of aerodynamic innovations that will concern the floor, with changes in the (floor edge?) and novelties in the front: the most visible aspect will be the introduction of a new "bargeboard", that is, the outermost flow diverter that should be oriented towards the solutions seen on the single-seaters that are giving it the best (Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren).

The intention is to manage front wheel turbulence better, finding better aerodynamic efficiency: the new floor edge wing, combined with small innovations on the floor should bring the Aston Martin back to a threshold of competitiveness in line with expectations. There is a lot of expectation at Silverstone, because the development strand being introduced at the U.S. GP should be a guideline going in the direction of next year's single-seater.

The Texas result, therefore, could also have some reflections going forward. Dan Fallows, Aston Martin's technical director, and Luca Furbatto, engineering director, have set their sights on Austin even though the American track is not ideal for debuting technical innovations with the Sprint race format: on Friday morning there will be only one free practice session to fine-tune the AMR21 before going into qualifying. The engineers preferred to take the risk without waiting for Mexico in the knowledge that the new features should fit right away, allowing for a performance boost. We will find out as early as Friday...
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10534184/

In the 6th paragraph of the article Nugnes says "floor edge wing" literally in English without translation, so that's likely what he means with sidewalk, if that answers AR3-GP's doubts. Some have suggested previously that area of the car was basic and had potential for development, apart from a very minor change it was not updated previously.
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KimiRai wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 19:32
AR3-GP wrote:
18 Oct 2023, 19:07
Is “sidewalk” the sidepod or the floor edge?
That's actually a good question. A person back in September said it was going to be "floor and sidepods" but sidepods could have been a mistranslation and instead it could be floor edge. The floor part seems real at least.
I can't find the original Italian. That might give us a clue.

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Let's see if Fabrega or other journalists give us some pictures today, if not we'll have to wait until tomorrow.

Also, according to this article it shouldn't be the last update of the season.

The thinking minds at Silverstone have been working to give the car less aerodynamic drag. In addition, the aim is to stabilise the aerodynamic platform, which was too often "confused" by various factors in the second half of this season.

Thus, the vortex structure has undergone a change of focus to further balance the sometimes fickle car. This intervention is not expected to be the last of the season, as the intention is clear: to validate as much as possible the new developments for 2024. However, the Sprint Race format poses a hurdle in the way as there will be little scope to test updates through data collection.
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2023 ... ustin.html

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Driver-lineup billboard at COTA has Drugovich driving for AM(instead of Lance) ; do they know something that we don't :lol: :lol: :lol:

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This front wing looks the same as the upside-down front wing from back then. The brackets had changed but there was nothing in the FIA doc (I still don't understand why).

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KimiRai wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 18:56
This front wing looks the same as the upside-down front wing from back then. The brackets had changed but there was nothing in the FIA doc (I still don't understand why).

https://i.imgur.com/cyaIT7T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N8ztasB.jpg
That's the last iteration. They had combined the bottom 3 flap in to 2 and split the top 1.

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diffuser wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 19:50
KimiRai wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 18:56
This front wing looks the same as the upside-down front wing from back then. The brackets had changed but there was nothing in the FIA doc (I still don't understand why).

https://i.imgur.com/cyaIT7T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N8ztasB.jpg
That's the last iteration. They had combined the bottom 3 flap in to 2 and split the top 1.
But why was there nothing in the FIA document at the time though? Sometimes it feels as if teams are allowed to not declare certain changes.

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KimiRai wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 20:03
diffuser wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 19:50
KimiRai wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 18:56
This front wing looks the same as the upside-down front wing from back then. The brackets had changed but there was nothing in the FIA doc (I still don't understand why).

https://i.imgur.com/cyaIT7T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N8ztasB.jpg
That's the last iteration. They had combined the bottom 3 flap in to 2 and split the top 1.
But why was there nothing in the FIA document at the time though? Sometimes it feels as if teams are allowed to not declare certain changes.
Article 19.1.c of the Sporting Regulations:
Each Competitor must provide a summary document to the Media Delegate listing the name and brief description of all major aerodynamic and bodywork components and assemblies that have not been run at a previous Competition or TCC and are intended to be run at the Competition
So plenty of small changes go unreported.

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Any updates to 'Floor and sidepods'?

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NAPI10 wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 22:28
Any updates to 'Floor and sidepods'?
It will only be the floor