2015 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai, April 10-12

[Regle]

If Hamilton was as relaxed as he seems, he wouldn't need those unnecessary little comments about how Nico was no threat, how easy everything is, the pretentious smiling etc.
Of course Nico isn't a threat in his current state and he's looking pretty bad from a mental point of view (and has for a long time now), but I definitely see what he's getting at (and so does Toto). Hamilton is presenting himself exactly the way I've seen him all these years (which is why I dislike him so much, I won't try to hide it). He seems to want to break Nico on all terms and that's childish and a bit worrying actually.
I don't think we've seen Schumacher humiliating Barrichello or Massa (or any other teammate) and he was even more dominating.

[iotar__]

- Rules are rules =D> . High speed fouls are not dangerous, 0,02 speeding behind SC is.

Actually, the safety car foul is the bigger issue because of the potential danger to marshals on the track. Under the safety car they expect the drivers to respect that they are in potentially dangerous places and behave accordingly. Drivers going at it with each other is what they're paid to do - they're also surrounded with just about the safest safety cells made by man. The marshals are surrounded only by an orange cotton overall. That's the difference.

- we're not talking about general "SC issue" but comparing penalties
- No, it's not much more serious to be tenth or whatever it was over limits under SC (physical act that has no safety implications) than to cause a high speed collision. But fine that's not the problem, it's a tool to force behaviour applied automatically, I'm not arguing with that. Whether it's overreacting after previous negligence of drivers racing under yellows is not the issue.
- The real issue is how can you apply smallest possible penalty for 100% one-sided high speed collision, example of a bad driving in comparison with similar or bigger penalties for lesser transgressions (like Hulkenberg's in Malaysia or Merhi's here). The other side of the equation is questioned.

I watched a replay and Sky "experts" for 5 minutes were looking for Maldonado's fault in the most blatant one-sided foul situation, this is just an alternative world.

[bonjon1979]

A replay of the race at the BBC, required Hola widget on the browser for those who is outside of the UK:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... ghts-china

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very interesting statistics .. cumulative sum of the best sectors. Vettel is very little behind Hamilton.

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I have the impression that in the Mercedes pits happen some kind of 'UFC' clash

http://i.imgur.com/MTRWRIJ.png

https://twitter.com/nico_rosberg/status ... 2625491969

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2015 China - Post-Race Top 3 Press Conference

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sul_ZdDZrBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Xz72YePsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNxwumKv_6s

Drama began .. Nico slowly bursting at the seams.
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Interesting Ham comment .. how much is still tires left.

Q: (Dan Knutson – Auto Action and Speed Sport magazines) Lewis, we only hear some of the radio transmissions on the TV. We heard the team asking you to speed up a bit and nothing more. Were there further discussions and did you speed up a bit?


LH: Well, there wasn’t really a time when I wasn’t... I mean I’m out there driving as hard as I can but within the constraints of the tyres. They kept coming on the radio and asking me to pick up the pace and I’m kind of ‘well, I’m trying to manage these tyres, I’ve basically got...’It’s like you have £100 and you have to spend it wisely over your stint and I was trying to make my stint go as long as possible and whilst keeping...

SV: ... how many pounds you had left at the end?

LH: I was hopefully still wealthy at the end of it.

Full transcript

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BBC Race Highlights

Official Race Highlights - China 2015

Top 3 interviewed in China

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Race Fastest Laps

Race History Chart

Race Lap Analysis

Race Pit Stop Summary

Race Best Sector Times

Race Maximum Speeds

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Technical Report Doc34 - Before/After the Race

Technical ReportDoc25 - Parc Ferme

Technical ReportDoc24 - D.Ricciardo

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Congratulations Lewis! =D>

What I find so strange is that nico recognises that hamilton diving at the pace he did took away his opportunity to try and win the race at the end. Does he expect hamilton to present an opportunity on a plate? Interesting that rosberg wouldn't answer the question, 'would he do the same thing as hamilton?' Apparently that was 'irrelevant'. On a side note I'm not sure answering Twitter fans of hamilton is probably a stellar idea.

[ME4ME]

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Wow, stunning sector times by Sainz

[ian_s]

Interesting that rosberg wouldn't answer the question, 'would he do the same thing as hamilton?' Apparently that was 'irrelevant'.

that's exactly what Rosberg would have done, and he knows it. To me this just sounds like sour grapes from Rosberg. he's a bad loser, he's lost his mojo right now.
He seems to have lost just a tiny bit, like he's doing 99.9% of what he is capable of, and Hamilton is doing 100%.

[ringo]

I don't get Rosberg, you want your teammate to speed up, so how will you beat him then?
He is lucky Hamilton is slowing down. If it were the other way around Hamilton would take 1rst place off him in a heart beat.

If he wanted Lewis to speed up then that shows he had no intention of getting ahead of Lewis, that alone shows that he was beaten.

[Just_a_fan]

I don't think we've seen Schumacher humiliating Barrichello or Massa (or any other teammate) and he was even more dominating.

Schumacher had definitive Number One status in the team - he didn't need to break his team mate because the team would always work to put him on the top step. Hamilton doesn't have that so he has to make sure that Rosberg is on the back foot. It's not necessarily pleasant but it's how the game is played.

Schumacher did have a habit of crashing in to his main opposition and parking on apices to ruin qualifying laps, however...

[aral]

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[aral]

I don't get Rosberg, you want your teammate to speed up, so how will you beat him then?
He is lucky Hamilton is slowing down. If it were the other way around Hamilton would take 1rst place off him in a heart beat.

If he wanted Lewis to speed up then that shows he had no intention of getting ahead of Lewis, that alone shows that he was beaten.

or it could show that he was complying with team orders!

[Jordan44]

If Hamilton was as relaxed as he seems, he wouldn't need those unnecessary little comments about how Nico was no threat, how easy everything is, the pretentious smiling etc.
Of course Nico isn't a threat in his current state and he's looking pretty bad from a mental point of view (and has for a long time now), but I definitely see what he's getting at (and so does Toto). Hamilton is presenting himself exactly the way I've seen him all these years (which is why I dislike him so much, I won't try to hide it). He seems to want to break Nico on all terms and that's childish and a bit worrying actually.
I don't think we've seen Schumacher humiliating Barrichello or Massa (or any other teammate) and he was even more dominating

The only one who humiliated Rosberg today was Rosberg himself with his childish reaction. If it resulted in him finishing third then he had the right to moan. But he didn't. He has damaged his reputation once again, just look at social media comments.

[SilverArrow10]

If Hamilton was as relaxed as he seems, he wouldn't need those unnecessary little comments about how Nico was no threat, how easy everything is, the pretentious smiling etc.
Of course Nico isn't a threat in his current state and he's looking pretty bad from a mental point of view (and has for a long time now), but I definitely see what he's getting at (and so does Toto). Hamilton is presenting himself exactly the way I've seen him all these years (which is why I dislike him so much, I won't try to hide it). He seems to want to break Nico on all terms and that's childish and a bit worrying actually.
I don't think we've seen Schumacher humiliating Barrichello or Massa (or any other teammate) and he was even more dominating.

Rosberg did this to himself. Hamilton didn't ask him to explode. Hamilton just won the damn race and beat his teammate like he is supposed to do.

[ismail1991]

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[ismail1991]

I don't think we've seen Schumacher humiliating Barrichello or Massa (or any other teammate) and he was even more dominating.

Schumacher had definitive Number One status in the team - he didn't need to break his team mate because the team would always work to put him on the top step. Hamilton doesn't have that so he has to make sure that Rosberg is on the back foot. It's not necessarily pleasant but it's how the game is played.

Schumacher did have a habit of crashing in to his main opposition and parking on apices to ruin qualifying laps, however...

I think radio messages of Rosberg today showed he accepted number 2 status. That's why we can make a direct comparison between Hamilton and Schumacher. As for the habit of crashing into main competitor or preventing your team mate doing a Qualifying time(in the case of Hamilton) is quite common at F1 for a long time. We saw Senna deliberately crashing into Prost at the beginning of the race and trying to say what he had done was the right thing after the race. However nobody talks about that because Schumacher is the ultimate devil. I am quite happy I am a Schumacher fan and after Schumacher I support Hamilton because two of them shows quite well how to win a race and how to act like a top class champion

[zeph]

There have been times that I said things I prolly shouldn't have said in the heat of the moment.

ROS was frustrated and vented a little more than he should have. HAM's response wasn't very diplomatic either.

But let's not make mountains out of molehills. None of this was a big deal, really.


ROS seems a little off his game, but I expect him to recover and take the fight to HAM again. This season has just started.

[Unc1eM0nty]

Lewis had track position and gets to dictate the pace, it's a simple as that.

We need to remember how frustrated and helpless Lewis was two weeks ago when he could feel the race slipping away from him. He wasn't going to take any chances today, he had a stint length to hit and managed to saved enough life from each set so he could have a dig at the end and buy a small cushion.

Nico ran out of ideas, if the tables had been turned I don't think Lewis would have blindly followed his race pace, it's just not in his nature.

In the end non of this mattered which is why I'm surprised by Nico's outburst, he's done this before though hasn't he (after Spa), in a press conf Lewis had a small dig at him about the coming together, when under pressure Nico sometimes lashes out.