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Lewis Hamilton had a race to forget at Singapore, where after a difficult qualifying session for the entire Mercedes team, he encountered a power unit issue that forced him into retirement halfway into the race.
More or less agree, but you must also consider his team mate was building some advantage meanwhile, so he was in a hurry. I don´t see the overtakes amateurish tough, this is F1, overtaking is not easy, specially when top speed is so low compared to the car in front and can´t use DRS to overtake, so he did what he could as soon as he could, and this means being agressive.Godius wrote:In all fairness, the overtakes that Verstappen produced on Sunday were all well executed moves that were flawless and earned respect from the Lotus drivers. The overtakes of Sainz on the other hand... , I was wondering how he didn't get a penalty for forcing Grosjean and Maldonado of the track. Sainz's overtakes looked so clumsy and amateurish compared to those of Verstappen his overtakes.
You are right but I've heard Sainz talking to BBC or Sky that he wanted to do a DRS aided overtake on Perez. But that was never going to happen considering that Perez was going faster on straight-line speed without DRS than Verstappen was going with DRS enabled and slipstream as well.Andres125sx wrote:More or less agree, but you must also consider his team mate was building some advantage meanwhile, so he was in a hurry. I don´t see the overtakes amateurish tough, this is F1, overtaking is not easy, specially when top speed is so low compared to the car in front and can´t use DRS to overtake, so he did what he could as soon as he could, and this means being agressive.Godius wrote:In all fairness, the overtakes that Verstappen produced on Sunday were all well executed moves that were flawless and earned respect from the Lotus drivers. The overtakes of Sainz on the other hand... , I was wondering how he didn't get a penalty for forcing Grosjean and Maldonado of the track. Sainz's overtakes looked so clumsy and amateurish compared to those of Verstappen his overtakes.
About the posibility for Sainz to pass Perez or not, I agree it would have been very dificult, but who knows. I´d have enjoyed watching it, and if he can´t, then let Max pass again. No loses for anyone. But Max didn´t allow it. There´s a new boss in STR
Bit harsh on Sainz, when overtaking Maldonado you have to throw your elbows out and be forceful as he sees the red mist. With Grosjean, and it took Verstappen several laps to set up a move and in the 3 corners between him and Sainz getting past, he built up several seconds of a lead. Sainz could've waited 2 more corners to DRS Grosjean but by then Verstappen would've been completely gone.Godius wrote:In all fairness, the overtakes that Verstappen produced on Sunday were all well executed moves that were flawless and earned respect from the Lotus drivers. The overtakes of Sainz on the other hand... , I was wondering how he didn't get a penalty for forcing Grosjean and Maldonado of the track. Sainz's overtakes looked so clumsy and amateurish compared to those of Verstappen his overtakes.
Other than Mercedes all it's customer teams run low drag high top speed setup, like Williams, Force India and Lotus all three have similar design philosophy so it was not surprising to see them slow but Mercedes this year have focused on downforce sacrificing top speed this is why they are faster on tracks where you need downforce.. It's actually fast everywhere so at first I thought maybe Merc have a longer wheelbase than Redbull and Ferrari which is effecting them but after a bit of research it seems they have the smallest wheelbase and the balance was good too there was just no grip for them.toraabe wrote:The tourqe curve of the Mercedes engine is so brutal so the rear tyres becomes overheated if the driver is not gentle enough with the throttle. Already last year they wanted wider rear tyres to get their power down.mrluke wrote:But it wasn't just Mercedes, none of the merc powered teams did very well.PlatinumZealot wrote:Singapore is very bumpy and it has true high traffic streets also. Remember lewis said he could heat his tyres up to temperature on his out laps but could not get further increase in his hot laps. His tyres actually cooled down. This is because the mercedes was not working the tyre as hard as the other cars. It could be scrub radius it could be the front wheel damper setup.... A lot of things. We know ther aero balance was there though. Hamilton confirmed he had good balance.
The only thing I can think of is that the merc teams have a set up which is much kinder to their tyres due to the higher power available (maybe?) meaning they can struggle to get enough heat into them on some tracks.
But....difficult to explain why so good at Monaco and so bad at Singapore.
Is it maybe heat and mguh/k related? I haven't seen side by side laps with the Ferrari to see where they lose out but heard its in the acceleration zones?
Odd.
Depends on where he peaks at. For example in sprinting running fast times as a teen almost never translate to tue times you run when you reach 23, 25, 30 years old. It all depends on your genetics and training. The other day justing gatlin was running blazing times at 33 while you have usain bolt's body breaking down at 28 due to nigling injuries and age. I think it sort of similar across all sports. It depends on the driver. Some blossom beautifully later on while some are like a firecracker they burn bright for a few early years and fizzle mid career. Stablemates Kobayashi was a firecracker and perez is like a wine slowly maturing.LionKing wrote:Verstappen also qualified very well at P8. He may have some mistakes but also gone very well in races. I think with these flashes of brilliance and considering his age, a very successful career lies ahead for him.
