Sebastian Vettel topped the times on the second day of testing at Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona. His time set just on Pirelli's new ultra-softs before noon remained best as teams focused on longer runs in the afternoon.
Last year in Spanish GP qualifying, Fernando did 326.9 and Jenson did 325.8. Because speed trap is measured at the same place, although the circuit layout differs from testing to GP, there shouldn't be a problem to compare them from last year. So, I don't think the current speed trap is for real.godlameroso wrote:14 kmh down, they need to cut that deficit to a third of that.
I didn't realise there was a layout difference. I was comparing the Qualy 2015 times to the current testing times... what's the difference and is there a map comparison anywhere? I've had a google but can't find anything.GPR-A wrote:Last year in Spanish GP qualifying, Fernando did 326.9 and Jenson did 325.8. Because speed trap is measured at the same place, although the circuit layout differs from testing to GP, there shouldn't be a problem to compare them from last year. So, I don't think the current speed trap is for real.godlameroso wrote:14 kmh down, they need to cut that deficit to a third of that.
It's not from what I can gather.will_bmx wrote:I didn't realise there was a layout difference. I was comparing the Qualy 2015 times to the current testing times... what's the difference and is there a map comparison anywhere? I've had a google but can't find anything.GPR-A wrote:Last year in Spanish GP qualifying, Fernando did 326.9 and Jenson did 325.8. Because speed trap is measured at the same place, although the circuit layout differs from testing to GP, there shouldn't be a problem to compare them from last year. So, I don't think the current speed trap is for real.godlameroso wrote:14 kmh down, they need to cut that deficit to a third of that.
gandharva wrote:Kvyat (medium): Outlap - 1:32.3 - 1:31.6 - 1:31.6 - 1:31.6 - 1:31.9 - 1:31.7 - 1:31.9 - 1:31.6 - 1:31.7 - 1:32.0 - 1:31.8 - 1:32.0 - 1:32.1 - 1:31.8 - 1:31.6 - Inlap
Sainz (medium): Outlap - 1:26.2 - 1:27.0 - 1:27.5 - 1:27.4 - 1:27.7 - 1:27.8 - 1:28.4 - 1:29.0 - 1:28.4 - 1:28.4 - 1:28.7 - 1:28.5 - 1:28.7 - 1:28.9 - 1:28.8 - 1:28.7 - 1:29.0 - Inlap
Rosberg (medium): Outlap - 1:30.9 - 1:26.6 - 1:27.2 - 1:27.4 - 1:30.4 - 1:27.9 - 1:27.6 - 1:28.0 - 1:27.9 - 1:27.9 - 1:28.1 - 1:27.8 - 1:27.8 - 1:27.9 - 1:27.9 - Inlap
Magnussen (soft): Outlap - 1:26.0 - 1:26.6 - 1:28.2 - 1:28.3 - 1:28.5 - 1:29.3 - 1:29.3 - 1:30.0 - Inlap
Massa (soft): Outlap - 1:29.7 - 1:29.7 - 1:30.4 - 1:31.3 - 1:32.3 - 1:32.3 - 1:32.6 - 1:33.2 - 1:33.4 - 1:33.4 - 1:33.9 - 1:34.3 - 1:34.6 - Inlap
It's true, Renault made no progress over 2014 before and during the 2015 season, then according to Horner the 2016 engine is little advanced over the final spec from 2015. So yes, the starting 2016 spec more or less on par with the 2014 engine.dot235 wrote:Silent Storm wrote:"Up at Turns 1-3 again. Interesting watching Sainz chase Hamilton with both on the medium tyre. Sainz has gradually lost ground and doesn't accelerate as well out of Turn 2 but otherwise the STR again looks a decent chassis.
There is not much to choose between them on corner entry, though the Merc is obviously travelling a bit faster when it gets there...
The works Merc and Ferrari are noticeably faster than others under acceleration up the hill from Turn 1 to Turn 3, but it's difficult to split them. The 2015 Ferrari engined STR is next best, a step ahead of the works Renault and the similarly-powered Red Bull RB12"
Ben Anderson
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Very interesting. So can we safely conclude that 2015 Ferrari EPU is quite substantially more powerful than 2016 Renault EPU?
I'am quite surprised if that's the case, considering the very decent 2014 season they had. Was expecting 2015 to be a temporary setback for them. But to be genuinely behind by more than 1 year in engine development is no joke.
I'am sure that can't be true, but how it looks like, is that 2016 EPU is barely if any better than their 2014 EPU.
Ah ok thanks! Wonder why GPR-A thinks it is? I couldn't see a difference and they're definitely using the GP end of lap with the tight chicane before pit entry. Impressive times so far by all tbh and the spread between fastest and slowest is so much smaller than last years qualy times. I know you can't look into it too much, but with the times as they are already it looks like everyone has made a big jump over last years pace and I hope the smaller front to back difference shows in the racing.bonjon1979 wrote:It's not from what I can gather.will_bmx wrote:I didn't realise there was a layout difference. I was comparing the Qualy 2015 times to the current testing times... what's the difference and is there a map comparison anywhere? I've had a google but can't find anything.GPR-A wrote: Last year in Spanish GP qualifying, Fernando did 326.9 and Jenson did 325.8. Because speed trap is measured at the same place, although the circuit layout differs from testing to GP, there shouldn't be a problem to compare them from last year. So, I don't think the current speed trap is for real.
Most likely a battered rear-end!Gridlock wrote: I guess Merc finally had a fatigue failure...
