2016 F1 Spanish Grand Prix

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GrayGreat wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:After listening to Ricciardo after the race this race was a gift to max from red bull...Ricciardo asked a valid question why would you make the leading driver do a 3 stop race and force him to have to pass faster cars on track when its next to impossible to pass in spain???
He doesnt look like a happy camper
Like I said, he needs to find another team for next year. Because RedBull have the history of favouring anything even slightly related to Austria (Germany, Austria and Netherlands speak almost the same language, same region, or maybe I am not sober) and hampering their 'Australian' drivers.
So the thought is, Red Bull chose to give the optimum tire strategy to a 17 year old who had never raced in this car before instead of their veteran driver.
I don't think anyone expected that strategy was best at the time, certainly the announcers were wondering why the devil they left Verstappen out so long on his second set when he was losing almost 2 seconds a lap.
Lets just congratulate Verstappen for a masterfully cool stint on those mediums and wish him well in the future. =D>

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RICCI explained it well. Giving the leading driver a strategy of where he had to overtake 3 cars on track is unlogic to say the least. Everyone wanted Max to win, good publicity in times of need. None the less, great drive from Max.
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Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
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Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton

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Ricciardo's take on it:
"I don't want to come across as a bad sportsman. Whatever happened on track, Max crossed the line first. Sure, it is every man for himself and I'm bitter, but not at Max, he did what he had to do, but I'm bitter at the situation."
That all seems to be fair, honest and actually quite sporting of him.
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Just_a_fan wrote:Ricciardo's take on it:
"I don't want to come across as a bad sportsman. Whatever happened on track, Max crossed the line first. Sure, it is every man for himself and I'm bitter, but not at Max, he did what he had to do, but I'm bitter at the situation."
That all seems to be fair, honest and actually quite sporting of him.
he is pissed at the pit wall for handing the race to max not at Max for carrying out the strategy given to him

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Sky reporting no penalty for Ros or Ham

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Just_a_fan wrote:Ricciardo's take on it:
"I don't want to come across as a bad sportsman. Whatever happened on track, Max crossed the line first. Sure, it is every man for himself and I'm bitter, but not at Max, he did what he had to do, but I'm bitter at the situation."
That all seems to be fair, honest and actually quite sporting of him.
Yes, but that's not all he said. He also spoke about getting the less optimum strategy.
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giantfan10 wrote:
Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was also no reason for Lewis to drive on the AstroTurf.
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Some more update, from Lewis' Sky interview. Lewis says, he was 17kph faster at that point and Nico was 180hp down, because of choosing a wrong setting. Lewis said, he was on the RIGHT, Max setting and Nico was on a wrong setting.

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giantfan10 wrote:
Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was a clear reason, defending the inside for the next right hander. Only thing you can blame ROS for is closing the door a bit late. But stating it like you did means you don't understand much about racing.
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No action on neither Ham or Ros. Ham doesn't blame Ros but is sad for the team.
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I think it's clear cut, Rosberg chose the wrong settings, and while attempting to change them coming out of turn 3, saw Hamilton too late - a lot later than he should have - and kept closing the gap in a hurry even when Hamilton's front wing AND front wheel was well alongside.
If Lewis hadn't taken to the grass Rosberg would've hit him right there.
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This battle for the lead reminded me on Maldonado Alonso 2012

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GPR-A wrote:Some more update, from Lewis' Sky interview. Lewis says, he was 17kph faster at that point and Nico was 180hp down, because of choosing a wrong setting. Lewis said, he was on the RIGHT, Max setting and Nico was on a wrong setting.
How does that automatically equates to Rosberg handing the place to Lewis?

Edit: Please stop using caps, it is annoying and does not add any weight to your argument if you think it does.
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