At a team event at the Museo Storico Alfa Romeo, where the Italian car manufacturer celebrated their return to Formula One, the Sauber F1 team have announced their driver line-up for 2018. From behind a repainted Sauber in Alfa Romeo colours, Marcus Ericsson and Charles Leclerc were present to confirm their racing seats in 2018.
I think Ferrari are unable or unwilling to give Kimi the car he wants. He hates understeer and we often hear him complaining of understeer on the radio etc. Perhaps the Ferrari is front limited in an attempt to protect the rear tyres (perhaps all current cars are like this to a degree). If that's the case, then Kimi will continue to struggle.
I think Alonso will be OK driving with Vettel or Hamilton at this point, he won't reject a winning car because the other driver is as good as him, he will go for it I think.
true, he's complaining a lot about that. though a lot of times i really can't make out anything from what he's babbling through the radio, it is 9/10 times exactly that, AND if it's not oversteer, it's the tires.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2017, 10:43I think Ferrari are unable or unwilling to give Kimi the car he wants. He hates understeer and we often hear him complaining of understeer on the radio etc. Perhaps the Ferrari is front limited in an attempt to protect the rear tyres (perhaps all current cars are like this to a degree). If that's the case, then Kimi will continue to struggle.
To be very honest, this is not something that's new with Kimi Raikkonen. He's always been a driver that's had to get a car to work for him rather than adapt to what's given to him. Mind you, we are talking small details but when the competition is so fierce it tends to get magnified.Manoah2u wrote: ↑21 Jul 2017, 20:48true, he's complaining a lot about that. though a lot of times i really can't make out anything from what he's babbling through the radio, it is 9/10 times exactly that, AND if it's not oversteer, it's the tires.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2017, 10:43I think Ferrari are unable or unwilling to give Kimi the car he wants. He hates understeer and we often hear him complaining of understeer on the radio etc. Perhaps the Ferrari is front limited in an attempt to protect the rear tyres (perhaps all current cars are like this to a degree). If that's the case, then Kimi will continue to struggle.
but even though i think Ferrari should do something to give him a car more to his liking,
on the other side the question also is; the rest of the field has the same tires and have to deal with the same issues.
why can't kimi cope?
I think VER and RIC will both stay at RBR until the one of them wins a title and then the loser will be off to pastures new...Schuttelberg wrote: ↑22 Jul 2017, 22:20To be very honest, this is not something that's new with Kimi Raikkonen. He's always been a driver that's had to get a car to work for him rather than adapt to what's given to him. Mind you, we are talking small details but when the competition is so fierce it tends to get magnified.Manoah2u wrote: ↑21 Jul 2017, 20:48true, he's complaining a lot about that. though a lot of times i really can't make out anything from what he's babbling through the radio, it is 9/10 times exactly that, AND if it's not oversteer, it's the tires.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2017, 10:43
I think Ferrari are unable or unwilling to give Kimi the car he wants. He hates understeer and we often hear him complaining of understeer on the radio etc. Perhaps the Ferrari is front limited in an attempt to protect the rear tyres (perhaps all current cars are like this to a degree). If that's the case, then Kimi will continue to struggle.
but even though i think Ferrari should do something to give him a car more to his liking,
on the other side the question also is; the rest of the field has the same tires and have to deal with the same issues.
why can't kimi cope?
Also, if I am to put it bluntly, the Formula 1 fraternity and fans have been more attracted to his persona than his sheer capability. He, in my opinion is one of those that is quite stunning when all the stars align but that doesn't happen very often for any sportsman. It did for Kimi between 2005-08 (first half) and then in his Lotus stint.
Also, in my humble opinion he is past his second best days as well and it's about time Ferrari replace him with someone, may be anyone. I find it amusing when people say Perez/Grosjean won't be an upgrade on him. It might be true, but did any of us ever think Bottas would keep Hamilton so honest in a Merc? Ferrari have tried keeping him, they might as well try someone else now. I find all this warming the seat for Leclerc/Giovinazzi talk juvenile. Also, Verstappen and Ricciardo might stick with RBR beyond 2019 as well.. It will all depend on the car.
how was the car unbeatable?Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑23 Jul 2017, 19:30well, I forgot about him
ever since I had inside information that the car would be unbeatable, and so bet lavishly on D.C.
I always remember the joke advert in Viz magazine: A commemorative plate celebrating DC's 10 years of mediocrity in F1. There was a quote from Ron Dennis that it also cracks under pressure, just like the real thing.NathanOlder wrote: ↑23 Jul 2017, 21:10Dc always reminds me of the opposite of Alonso. He's a crap driver but always ended up in a great car.
