2024 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 19 - 21

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organic wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:00
chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:59
He steers to the right to avoid hamilton, unloading the front right which then locks up first, causing the overspeed
Max pulling out gives him even more downforce for braking.

He locks up because he realized he wasn’t making the corner and did the “oh ---”.

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LM10 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:56
Max even forced Lambiase to tell him how childish his behaviour was. This guy just goes nuts when the slightest thing does not go his way. Instead he should be thankful for all this amazing team has given him.
Their strategy really wasn't great having been undercut by Mercedes twice. And in a competition this tight, emotions take control but at least he will learn.
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We'll see what the stewards decide, both have been summoned

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So basically McLaren forced their drivers to make up for the mistake the team did, didn't they? Half through that radio programme they've served I realized that Lando was pulling their leg and putting his point across. By the way, in my opinion both Lando and Oscar are robots or aliens. It is impossible for a human to have such a cool chat while piloting the F1 car at those speeds.

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organic wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:01
Hoffman900 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:01
chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:59
This shows that it was even more obvious he wasn’t making the corner :lol:
Yeah, because the car in front moved on the brakes.
Looks like Hamilton was simply going for the apex in the process of taking the turn. I doubt he even saw Max until the last moment.

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organic wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:00
chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:59
He steers to the right to avoid hamilton, unloading the front right which then locks up first, causing the overspeed
The moving under braking stuff you said really can't be seen here mate. Ham gave him the whole inside line, he just hit the brakes too late and too hard hence the lockup.

Was never making the corner. But at least he finished the race.
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VER might as well be sliding sideways but ahead at the apex & some will call the overtake attempt legitimate. Silly
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

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I mean that’s a slam dunk penalty for max

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Hoffman900 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:00
Just_a_fan wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:57
PierreW wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:34


For what? Hamilton turned on him when he blocked his wheels.
If you arrive with both fronts locked, you're not in control and have no rights in any ensuing incident. Lewis was taking the line and Max dive bombed. That's on Max alone.
The fact that GP didn’t even want to hear it from Max after this was telling, but people will argue here defending it like it’s their job.
I think Max is going to told to wind his neck in during the debrief. His constant carping on the radio, swearing at the team, etc., won't go down well when you then lose places by piss-poor driving.

Interesting to see the real Max coming out when he's not 20 seconds ahead every race...
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Luscion wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:04
We'll see what the stewards decide, both have been summoned
I don't think anything will happen as there were no real consequences to the collision - also a penalty would be so inconsequential (+/- 2 points). There was no damage or injury.
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Stella is absolutely class at taking the heat out of it

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Luscion wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:04
We'll see what the stewards decide, both have been summoned
Lewis to be DSQ and Max to be given 25 bonus points for the best air of the day. :lol:
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Yes I reverse my opinion: Max is predominantly at fault for the collision

Penalty for Verstappen 10s which would take him from p5->p6, but stewards may decide for a racing incident considering Hamilton himself has already said he believes it's a racing incident and that may sway the stewards
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politburo wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:05
organic wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:00
chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:59
He steers to the right to avoid hamilton, unloading the front right which then locks up first, causing the overspeed
The moving under braking stuff you said really can't be seen here mate. Ham gave him the whole inside line, he just hit the brakes too late and too hard hence the lockup.

Was never making the corner. But at least he finished the race.
If you sail pass someone 10mph faster with no hope of making the corner, you’re technically ahead. That’s what they’re hinging their argument on.

The fact GP pretty much snapped and RB didn’t go to bat for Max is telling. They know.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 17:06
I mean that’s a slam dunk penalty for max
Yeah, there's no chance he makes that turn and he is surely aware that he will cause contact unless the other driver takes evasive action. It's a classic Verstappen move and I think if they don't set a precedent now, they never will.