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Lewis Hamilton has won the Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul after closely following the Red Bulls until they knocked each other out. Jenson Button was second, while Mark Webber managed to finish third after an extra stop. Sebastian Vettel didn't make it to the finish.
Watch the steering wheel, webber does not move it. If anything he turned it to the right after Vettel juked.andrew wrote:To summarise my view of the race:
I would have to say that it was completely Webbers fault. He was slow coming out of the corner which allowed Vettel to catch up. As Vettel was ahead, it was his corner. On the on-board view, Webber seemed to turn a little to the left briefly then smash. For me, 100% Webbers fault.
Good result for Schumacher. Best of the rest is none to shabby at all.
Liked McLarens "save fuel message". I can't help but think that was a coded message as they didn't seem to slow down at all.
Vettel was in the right. Webber should have conceded the corner. I'm surprised that Horner wasn't yelling down the radio at Webber telling him to behave.ringo wrote:Watch the steering wheel, webber does not move it. If anything he turned it to the right after Vettel juked.
That is the fact of the matter. Webber kept his line and did not move.
Vettel wanted to push marc off line so he could go through the turn properly. Simalar stuff he did to Hamilton in the pitlane to stay on the inside of turn 1 in china.
It is not the same tyre. When Massa has his accident, Schumacher ran an old Ferrari on GP2 tyre because the runs would had not be allowed on F1 tyre.ISLAMATRON wrote:Watching the Speedtv replay of the GP2 race and at the start of the F1 race they mentioned that the GP2 cars were running the medium compound of the same F1 spec tires(even though the F1 cars were running soft & hard).. is it true that the GP2 tires are the same as the F1 tires? I seem to remember members here saying otherwise and that GP2 tires were totally different compound/construction.
Anyone got info on this?
Only one man has a say in all of this. The man with the front row seat, who also knows a thing or 2 about overtaking; Lewis Hamilton:andrew wrote:Vettel was in the right. Webber should have conceded the corner. I'm surprised that Horner wasn't yelling down the radio at Webber telling him to behave.ringo wrote:Watch the steering wheel, webber does not move it. If anything he turned it to the right after Vettel juked.
That is the fact of the matter. Webber kept his line and did not move.
Vettel wanted to push marc off line so he could go through the turn properly. Simalar stuff he did to Hamilton in the pitlane to stay on the inside of turn 1 in china.
As for China, which of the two was it that was in the wrong lane after an unsafe release?
if anything, bring up back the video and tell us exactly where you see mark move. I bet you can't find it."It was great to watch. Like watching an action movie in HD or 3D," said Hamilton. "It was fantastic. I got the best view of it!
"Sebastian is safe, but I just saw Seb go up the inside, Mark held his line and no room to move right, and no reason for Seb to move to the right. It was unfortunate for them and fortunate for us."
He was ahead by half-a-car length, definitely not Vettel's corner, in the sense that Webber didn't have to rollover to the right to let him through.andrew wrote:To summarise my view of the race:
I would have to say that it was completely Webbers fault. He was slow coming out of the corner which allowed Vettel to catch up. As Vettel was ahead, it was his corner. On the on-board view, Webber seemed to turn a little to the left briefly then smash. For me, 100% Webbers fault.
Good result for Schumacher. Best of the rest is none to shabby at all.
Liked McLarens "save fuel message". I can't help but think that was a coded message as they didn't seem to slow down at all.
The result was he eased into the side of Webber, Vettel’s right rear wheel into the sidepod of Webber’s car. As he walked away he made a hand gesture that implied that Webber was crazy, but the replays of the incident appeared to confirm that Vettel moved into Webber before he had made the pass stick.
autosport.com wrote:Speaking in the Istanbul paddock on Sunday night, team principal Christian Horner said that he was finally aware of what had happened in the race.
"We now have all the facts," he said. "Mark had changed down into a fuel saving mode that cost him a little bit of performance on the straights, which also explains how Sebastian got a very clear run on him.
"The large mistake remains that not enough room was given, and the explanation is there on how Sebastian had managed to get into the tow. He had managed to save an extra kilogramme of fuel - as both cars start the race with the same amount of fuel.
"Effectively he had one more lap of the optimum engine mode, but we couldn't back him off because he was under pressure from Lewis Hamilton behind."
Mark had every right to hold that line why should he move? vettle should have went further past before cutting in, he did it far to early.andrew wrote:Vettel was in the right. Webber should have conceded the corner. I'm surprised that Horner wasn't yelling down the radio at Webber telling him to behave.ringo wrote:Watch the steering wheel, webber does not move it. If anything he turned it to the right after Vettel juked.
That is the fact of the matter. Webber kept his line and did not move.
Vettel wanted to push marc off line so he could go through the turn properly. Simalar stuff he did to Hamilton in the pitlane to stay on the inside of turn 1 in china.
As for China, which of the two was it that was in the wrong lane after an unsafe release?
No he didn't. He was past Mark, knew Mark was there and Vettel needed a small amount of space to brake into the corner where he felt he was long past Webber. This was no attempt to squeeze Webber whatsoever. If anything, it was the reverse.ringo wrote:Vettel wanted to push marc off line so he could go through the turn properly.
Stop bringing this up please. They are not the same incidents in any way shape or form and doing so makes you look rather silly, not to mention we're talking about track racing and not what happens in the pitlane here. It's been explained what happened there. Hamilton wanted to try and overtake Vettel by going where he shouldn't have. As simple as.Simalar stuff he did to Hamilton in the pitlane to stay on the inside of turn 1 in china.
+1...adam2007 wrote: Are you a imbecile? Mark had every right to hold that line why should he move? vettle should have went further past before cutting in, he did it far to early.