Mercedes AMG F1 W07

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Well, after about 18 race sims the gearbox has finally had an issue.

Quite hilarious really, that its lasted so long.

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Chapman would tell them it's obviously too big and heavy :wink:

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Chene_Mostert
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PhillipM wrote:Chapman would tell them it's obviously too big and heavy :wink:
Yes, components should be designed to complete the desired distance, otherwise it's over engineered.
Come to think of it. I'm sure the have changed engine and gearbox over the weekend.
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All the current cars are terrible in dirty air, it destroys the tires or tyres , it is not a problem exclusive to Mercedes its a general problem that the FIA has failed to combat .

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djones wrote:Well, after about 18 race sims the gearbox has finally had an issue.

Quite hilarious really, that its lasted so long.
Or, to put it another way, slightly further than the winning distance in last year's Le Mans 24 Hours…

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Chene_Mostert wrote: ...
I'm sure the have changed engine and gearbox over the weekend.
According to AMuS they changed the PU before the second test session ... that means gearbox too?
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I`m sorry if that is OT, but Andy Cowell said in an interview they will do this year 21 races races with only 4 PU`s, despite the fact that they are allowed to have 5 ... maybe they take the last one as a backup in case something`s going wrong ...

Therefore could anyone tell how many kilometers - on average - has a weekend grand prix?
Had we do the mats ( let`s say we have on average a 5 km lap race) :
- for FP1 they do at least 20-25 laps, so 100-125km
- for FP2, with a race simulation, they do 35-40 laps, so there are 175-200km
- in FP3, they do 15-20 laps, so 75-100km
- in Qualy, they are doing 12-15 laps = 60-75km
- and on Sunday there are at least 315-320kms with the in/out laps before and after the race ...
So on average a race weekend has almost 775 km and bearing in mind they`ll try to do 5 races with a single PU we could say they have to last for at least 3875 km !
And if I`m not wrong, this figure was precise their first test session mileage ... :D
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Wow, are we really going down that way? "Also Wo6 was nothing special in dirty air". Replace W06 with MP4/4, FW14B or F2002 and you will still make that sentence be bang on. There's nothing special about the notion that a car is nothing special in dirty air, and the discussion around is on its own is nothing more then dirty air.

I'll do this topic a favour by removing all involved posts.
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Flo-viz on Mercedes

On upper flap on right side there are visible like vertical lines created by vortex which are induced by serrated tape.

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Holm86 wrote:So, Mercedes is just serrating everything now?? :D
I got a feeling they've reached the maximum potential of their W05 mk.3 (now W07). Same philosophy nothing really eye catching, except putting serrations everywhere. I think they've over-complicated the chassis not knowing where to extract more performance. If you look at their diffusor its more or less the same as last's years, not very developed comparing to the McLaren's, Toro Rosso, Ferrari's and Red Bull's.

Rosberg's saying they might be behind the Ferrari.
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F1NAC wrote:Flo-viz on Mercedes

On upper flap on right side there are visible like vertical lines created by vortex which are induced by serrated tape.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuS5K7W8AAgZJK.jpg:large
Is that some sort of saw-tooth profile in the lower wing beam edge?
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AnthonyG wrote:
F1NAC wrote:Flo-viz on Mercedes

On upper flap on right side there are visible like vertical lines created by vortex which are induced by serrated tape.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuS5K7W8AAgZJK.jpg:large
Is that some sort of saw-tooth profile in the lower wing beam edge?
Yes its visible

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Here is what I'm saying:

W06's diffuser. Which looks slightly different to the W05's.

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Compare to the image they're testing now. Very mild modifications.

Also mantikos, don't be judgmental calling names. This is my way of adding up to the conversation, I strongly believe based on what I'm seeing that Mercedes' may have reached their development peak of their chassis.
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I don't think any chassis in F1 history has ever reached it's development peak. :?

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F1Krof wrote:Here is what I'm saying:

W06's diffuser. Which looks slightly different to the W05's.

http://media.f1i.com/wp-content/uploads ... -copie.jpg

Compare to the image they're testing now. Very mild modifications.
For the love of god................

Just because you don't see drastic visual changes doesn't mean it hasn't change significantly. :wtf:
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To be fair, they are going on really, really tiny aero details here. No other team does it on such a scale. It becomes much easier to lose grip on what's actually going on with such miniscule details.

However, an unchanged diffuser isn't really a sign of anything. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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