2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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Zynerji
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organic wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:56
AR3-GP wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:17
This "until he is fully fit" messaging suggest a longer stay for Liam.
"Liam Lawson will race until Ricciardo is fully fit" is more confidence inspiring, better optics, and less pressure on ricciardo to return, than saying each weekend Daniel is not available that Lawson will replace him
I had the same injury, and it took 9 months to fully heal.

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Zynerji wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 19:16
organic wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:56
AR3-GP wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:17
This "until he is fully fit" messaging suggest a longer stay for Liam.
"Liam Lawson will race until Ricciardo is fully fit" is more confidence inspiring, better optics, and less pressure on ricciardo to return, than saying each weekend Daniel is not available that Lawson will replace him
I had the same injury, and it took 9 months to fully heal.
Yep, hand and foot injuries can be very, very nasty to recover. At the very least I think he will be out for a couple of months, but probably more, so it is very realistic his season might be over. Maybe for Brazil, but if Lawson is doing well, why would they replace him with Ricciardo again for the last three races?

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How long was Lance Stroll out for after broken wrists?
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Wouter wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 14:28
djos wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 13:26
Rikhart wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 10:55
It is quite possible Ricciardo will not drive again this season, they only way he will be back is if Lawson massively dissapoints, I feel.
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Your feelings have very little to do with reality, Horner and Marko have made it very clear
Daniel is aiming to be back in the car for Singapore.
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Singapore? That is Thursday Sept 14!! In 2 1/2 weeks!! :roll:

Horner didn't say that at all!
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In conversation with the BBC, Horner provides an update on the situation at the sister team:
"It was a fairly simple procedure. For Daniel it is now all about his recovery.
For a normal person, the recovery period takes a few months, for a racing driver it is usually shorter.
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A few months is 10 - 12 weeks at least. "Usually shorter" doesn't mean 2 1/2 weeks!
I saw Horner interviewed on Sky, and he said Daniel is aiming for Singapore.

https://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/3 ... ian-horner
Red Bull boss Christian Horner expects Daniel Ricciardo will target the Singapore Grand Prix on Sep. 17 to return to Formula One.
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Zynerji wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 19:16
organic wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:56
AR3-GP wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:17
This "until he is fully fit" messaging suggest a longer stay for Liam.
"Liam Lawson will race until Ricciardo is fully fit" is more confidence inspiring, better optics, and less pressure on ricciardo to return, than saying each weekend Daniel is not available that Lawson will replace him
I had the same injury, and it took 9 months to fully heal.
Stroll broke both hands and was back in the car a couple of weeks later - at least Daniel has only broken one hand.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/formul ... ken-wrists
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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 22:00
How long was Lance Stroll out for after broken wrists?
A smidge over 2 weeks.

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djos wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 23:20
Wouter wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 14:28
djos wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 13:26

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Your feelings have very little to do with reality, Horner and Marko have made it very clear
Daniel is aiming to be back in the car for Singapore.
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Singapore? That is Thursday Sept 14!! In 2 1/2 weeks!! :roll:

Horner didn't say that at all!
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In conversation with the BBC, Horner provides an update on the situation at the sister team:
"It was a fairly simple procedure. For Daniel it is now all about his recovery.
For a normal person, the recovery period takes a few months, for a racing driver it is usually shorter.
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A few months is 10 - 12 weeks at least. "Usually shorter" doesn't mean 2 1/2 weeks!
I saw Horner interviewed on Sky, and he said Daniel is aiming for Singapore.

https://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/3 ... ian-horner
Red Bull boss Christian Horner expects Daniel Ricciardo will target the Singapore Grand Prix on Sep. 17 to return to Formula One.
I believe Horner said this before it was known that ricciardo's hand surgery had revealed a more complicated fracture than was expected

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True, but I think Stroll was in much worse shape than Daniel.
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Yeah Stroll had a few more injuries.

"On Saturday, February 18th I crashed on my bike while training in Spain. The scans showed I had a fracture and displacement in my right wrist, a fracture in my left wrist, a partial fracture in my left hand and finally another fracture in the big toe on my right foot."

https://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/3 ... t-injuries

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djos wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 23:24
Zynerji wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 19:16
organic wrote:
28 Aug 2023, 18:56


"Liam Lawson will race until Ricciardo is fully fit" is more confidence inspiring, better optics, and less pressure on ricciardo to return, than saying each weekend Daniel is not available that Lawson will replace him
I had the same injury, and it took 9 months to fully heal.
Stroll broke both hands and was back in the car a couple of weeks later - at least Daniel has only broken one hand.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/formul ... ken-wrists
It depends. My break was a shatter, and needed a metal bridge to hold the space for the bone to grow back together. That bone still ended up losing 5mm of length.

Wrists are gliding joints. Big BIG difference in recovery time.

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How long is Dan's contract for? if it goes on til year end will he have continuity or was the plan to get another contract from end of season? If it is a break in contract it may not look too good for Dan.
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On the other hand if Dan is out until the end of the year (which I don't believe will be the case anyway)given his successful RB19 test and decent start at AT they might just bite the bullet and move Perez on then put him in alongside Max and leave Lawson at AT. Its not all doom and gloom for him imo. Either way he has sympathy from RBR given the current situation and how much they like and respect him I can't see them turfing him out at the end of the year if he doesn't make it back before then.

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Interesting Marko had dinner with Dan over the summer break and said AT is very happy with him and that he has provided a real jolt to the team. Cant help but feel Dan could very well be back in that RBR seat in 2024 esp now they seem to need to find Lawson a seat at AT now in 2024.

https://formula1news.co.uk/helmut-marko ... -be-fired/

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Red Bull has bad news about Ricciardo's Formula 1 season

Helmut Marko expects Daniel Ricciardo to be out of action in Formula 1 for longer than first thought,
after suffering a broken hand in Zandvoort.

Liam Lawson, the reserve driver of Red Bull and AlphaTauri, got into the car in the Netherlands and will also drive the Italian Grand Prix weekend. In Monza we spoke to Dr. Helmut Marko about the situation, in which he gave bad news about Ricciardo and his F1 season in front of the microphone of RacingNews365, among others.

"Normally this takes six weeks," says the Red Bull advisor about the recovery process of such a broken hand.
"In the very best case, the first Grand Prix he will see again will be the Singapore race.
However, physically this is one of the most extreme circuits."

So the chance that we will see Ricciardo there again?
"It's unlikely. And the same actually applies to the race at Suzuka," he says, referring to the Japanese Grand Prix,
scheduled for Sunday, September 24.
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