Sauber C31 Ferrari

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I see a ramp ? Or is it the angle that doesnt show the undercut?[/quote]

There's no more ramp. They have followed McLaren. Here's a little better pic without the angle

[Huntresa]

Ah nice, thats better, beautiful, lets hope it all works.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Ah nice, thats better, beautiful, lets hope it all works.

I think it probably will. Keep in mind a team like Sauber can focus mainly on aero whereas the larger teams must focus on more things & supply these things to smaller teams. That said, the C31 is looking better and better.

[PhantomPoster]

What are the big teams supplying to the smaller teams? Aero?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

What are the big teams supplying to the smaller teams? Aero?

No, they supply engine, gearbox, KERS, etc. This allows some of the smaller teams to focus more on Aerodynamics versus some other things the big teams must deal with/focus on.

[raymondu999]

Wow. The pioneers of the coanda ramp sidepod move over to the McLaren design. I did not see that coming. I wonder if those who are using the same Sauber design will follow suit.

[Huntresa]

What are the big teams supplying to the smaller teams? Aero?

No, they supply engine, gearbox, KERS, etc. This allows some of the smaller teams to focus more on Aerodynamics versus some other things the big teams must deal with/focus on.

How does that work tho ? I mean is the department that handles the engines/kers/gearbox directly linked to F1 or is it just Ferrari or a department within Ferrari but still not F1 ?

I mean they have ppl working for the customers they have but are they paid from Ferraris F1 team budget or Ferrari as a car maker?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

New exhaust

[McMrocks]

i am amazed about sauber. they really copy the macca exhaust. I think their exhaust was so good that RB copied them. I'm not sure if this was the right decision.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I'm not sure if this was the right decision.

Obviously they are. They're the ones who have been testing it in the Wind Tunnel & CFD. If they didn't think it would help the car, they wouldn't do it.

[ing]

Wow. The pioneers of the coanda ramp sidepod move over to the McLaren design. I did not see that coming. I wonder if those who are using the same Sauber design will follow suit.

I predicted (expected ?) that solution for Ferrari. I think it's the best - maintaining the coke-bottle effect plus introducing a vortex (in addition to the coanda effect) to drive the exhaust downward.

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[McMrocks]

another question from me is:
on the right side there is the tv camera. But on the left side there is a bigger black thing.
So what is this? And is this only for testing?

(grüße)

[PhantomPoster]

What are the big teams supplying to the smaller teams? Aero?

No, they supply engine, gearbox, KERS, etc. This allows some of the smaller teams to focus more on Aerodynamics versus some other things the big teams must deal with/focus on.

But Ferrari have twice as many people working for than as Sauber. Also Mercedes and Macca get their engines from HPE, so would you call Merc and Macca smaller teams with more ability to focus on aero? Are RBR a small team more focused on aero?

Sorry, I think the engine supply argument is flawed.

The midfield-and-back teams have far fewer people on the payroll, so for any of them to be able to update their cars with the big boys is far more impressive I think.

[cccag]

@ McMrocks : here is right side view .... I think its just an ordinary aero shape, not a camera, but in bigger size

[McMrocks]

@cccag: thanks. it also could be for data transmission. After the test it will disappear. The ferrari behind has it on top