Caterham had a double DNF on their first race, but despite the actual result, it was not all bad for the team. Both drivers had shown promising pace in the first half of the race, but for both drivers the reliability of their cars was not at the same level.
beelsebob wrote:Having seen how qually went, I'll revise my race outcome prediction:
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Schumacher
I expect the red bulls to struggle in the race – their norm is to set up more for qualifying than the race in recent years.
Well they did introduce increased load tests this year – have we seen the RB8's front wing flexing anywhere near as much?myurr wrote:Why are the FIA cracking down on that now, after all these years of Red Bull having such an obviously flexing front wing. Wish they'd just be consistent!beelsebob wrote:My bet would be because what they care about is the back of the front wing, when it flexes down. My guess is that the FIA aren't happy that McLaren have found a way to increase wing flex, but still pass the tests.muz wrote:Just to touch on the whole home nations thing my biggest issue is with some countries calling Britain -England the worst example was when i was in America on holiday and seen an advert for upcoming tennis, calling Andy Murray "England's finest" Urgh!
Back on topic apparently the issue with mclaren at scrutinising was the front wing at the wrong height (from maxis news) But if this was so why did it take so long to measure it?
Agreed %100. F...ng politics...MuseF1 wrote:I remember a time when they just had to see one video of a Mclaren or Ferrari wing flexing and straight away it would be stopped
But, if its happening on an RBR... Not enough evidence
I'm glad you've revealed your home location and preference for drivers/teams so I can put that into perspective......NathanOlder wrote:Im thinking Mercedes will use their tyres faster than the teams around them. Hopefully Mclaren will run off into the distance
Freely admit to being a little bit of a hypocrite in that regard, but at least McLaren would let their two drivers fight it out. Either way I don't think we're in for a repeat of last season. The McLaren's have a bit of an edge here, and I think they'll even be a very little bit further ahead at the next two races, but I think there are a number of cars around them that will trouble them from race to race. It's not going to be easy for anyone out there.Mandrake wrote:I'm glad you've revealed your home location and preference for drivers/teams so I can put that into perspective......NathanOlder wrote:Im thinking Mercedes will use their tyres faster than the teams around them. Hopefully Mclaren will run off into the distance
I'm sitting here laughing about all the forum members crying about last season, a boring season with Vettel cruising away, but this season hoping that McLaren DOES EXACTLY THAT....how inconsistent can one be......I hope Merc have slightly better tire degradation compared to McLaren so they can take the fight to the McLarens.
If McLaren are as good in the race as they were last year --> oh dear, same season as last year, only different car/driver at the front.....
I'm not talking about this race and neither is anyone else. The conclusions are being made that Kimi is toast, Alonso is toast and that Vettel can't race and the RBR is crap compared to the McLaren. NONE of which make any sense. There has been one session completed in this season so far. These conclusions are illogical and stupid. You can't make these conclusions after just one session and doing so is just talking to hear your own voice. We have a VERY long season ahead of us and making declarations is foolish.NathanOlder wrote:Ray wrote:One qualifying session and everyone is throwing out Vettel, Kimi and Alonso out with the baby and the bathwater. It's one session guys, we've got a long way to go. It would be very foolish to count anyone out right now.
Winner of the first race, has had a very high % chance of winning the title.
And it doesnt look like Alonso Kimi or Vettel will be winning tomorrow. So i'd say its good judgement , especially when it comes to Alonso's ferrari.
Remember Mclaren have the best development team in terms of finding speed through the year. So if the start the season infront, It looks promising for the woking team
Ray, you're right, of course. It's just that F1 brings out the passions (some not too attractive) in all of us. It IS a long-ish season. ALMOST anything can happen (NO, HRT and Marussia can NOT win WCC) LOLRay wrote:I'm not talking about this race and neither is anyone else. The conclusions are being made that Kimi is toast, Alonso is toast and that Vettel can't race and the RBR is crap compared to the McLaren. NONE of which make any sense. There has been one session completed in this season so far. These conclusions are illogical and stupid. You can't make these conclusions after just one session and doing so is just talking to hear your own voice. We have a VERY long season ahead of us and making declarations is foolish.NathanOlder wrote:Ray wrote:One qualifying session and everyone is throwing out Vettel, Kimi and Alonso out with the baby and the bathwater. It's one session guys, we've got a long way to go. It would be very foolish to count anyone out right now.
Winner of the first race, has had a very high % chance of winning the title.
And it doesnt look like Alonso Kimi or Vettel will be winning tomorrow. So i'd say its good judgement , especially when it comes to Alonso's ferrari.
Remember Mclaren have the best development team in terms of finding speed through the year. So if the start the season infront, It looks promising for the woking team
I'm just going to leave this right here for at least any questions related to Ferrari.Ray wrote:I'm not talking about this race and neither is anyone else. The conclusions are being made that Kimi is toast, Alonso is toast and that Vettel can't race and the RBR is crap compared to the McLaren. NONE of which make any sense. There has been one session completed in this season so far. These conclusions are illogical and stupid. You can't make these conclusions after just one session and doing so is just talking to hear your own voice. We have a VERY long season ahead of us and making declarations is foolish.
Oh I don't think the Ferrari isn't a dog, Alonso has pretty much said so himself. But Alonso has the rare talent to constantly punch above his weight. Are they going to win a race/races or the WCC? I seriously doubt it. But this is Formula 1, you never know. May be silly, but I agree with Jeremy Clarkson. He said when the road cars are beautiful and mind-blowing, the race cars are crap. I believe he's right. The 458 is a thing of beauty and a wonderful car when it isn't on fire. The last two F1 cars they made? Junk. (I somewhat agree that they should start focus on next year and possibly beyond though.)bhallg2k wrote: I'm just going to leave this right here for at least any questions related to Ferrari.
