Red Bull RB10 Renault

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gandharva wrote:
rscsr wrote:The RB10 really doesn't have a bump there, but that is exaggerated due to the high Sidepods.
For me the height of the sidepods is quite similar for all the cars on the upper pic.
The engine is about as high as the the wheel hub. In this area is maybe the airbox or air channels for cooling.
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langwadt
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timbo wrote:I do not think there's much of a difference in the engine position between cars. It goes as deep as it can go and no point in lifting it. Ancillaries may differ though.
The rules say that the crankshaft must be at 90mm above reference plane, there is even a "box" where certain parts
of the engine must fit within. The engine position cannot really differ

Owen.C93
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That bulge is the airbox.
Motorsport Graduate in search of team experience ;)

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According to German Auto Bild Motorsport the RB10 was firstly assembled in the night before the first day at jerez. That's also the explanation of why something as simple as attaching a spring went wrong.
They also cite Marko and Newey.
Marko: We need to redesign certain things which is a pity.
Newey (asked about what needs to be done): I'm really not sure about what needs to be done for a satisfying solution.

Source:
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news ... 20513.html

/edit: writing on my smartphone is hilarious. It always swallows words.
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radosav
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I think that RB 10 could have been great car , but Renault engine will stop all Red Bull hopes ,at least first half of season!

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BorisTheBlade wrote:According to German Auto Bild Motorsport the RB10 was firstly assembled in the night before the first day at jerez. That's also the explanation of why something as simple as attaching a spring went wrong.
They also cite Marko and Newey.
Marko: We need to redesign certain things which is a pity.
Newey (asked about what needs to be done): I'm really not sure about what needs to be done for a satisfying solution.

Source:
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news ... 20513.html

/edit: writing on my smartphone is hilarious. It always swallows words.
It explains a lot. I'm sure all they wanted to do at Jerez is get some tests under way. With the failures they've unfortunately caused the uproar with fans and journalists alike. In the end they are at the same stage as Lotus, and noone is already dooming them, so I'm sure they have nothing to be too worried about.

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"@bgarloff: Red Bull's Marko told @abms_reporter and @SPORTBILD: "Adrian has to redesign some elements in the rear of the car, but we should have solved the problem until Bahrain.""
Presumably a small translation error and he actually said the redesign would be ready for Bahrain.

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Jonnycraig wrote:
"@bgarloff: Red Bull's Marko told @abms_reporter and @SPORTBILD: "Adrian has to redesign some elements in the rear of the car, but we should have solved the problem until Bahrain.""
Presumably a small translation error and he actually said the redesign would be ready for Bahrain.
That's the trouble with a source citing another source. The ABMS article isn't published on the Internet IMHO.

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1) What influence has had the swap from superconductors to Li-ion battery, knowing the fact that Renault nor RBR didn`t have the knowledge to operate with :
a) 10 times more energy stored within almost the same ERS weight like they had last year (20-25kg) and
b) charging times must be almost the same like last year but this time to harvest 10 times more energy

2) It`s hard to believe the fact that they didn`t simulate how PU with MGU-H and MGU-K works altogether, both for Renault side and together with the chassis at Milton Keynes from RBR side, so I think it`s something bigger or something they couldn`t simulate such as ... * here you could feel free to fill the gaps
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atanatizante wrote:1) What influence has had the swap from superconductors to Li-ion battery
Im guessing you meant super capacitors?
(superconductors in that environment would be one hell of an achievement )

tuj
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I thought RBR in previous years was only using super caps in conjunction with a small battery, not super caps exclusively?

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RB10 Nose Analysis

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via F1.com

rayden
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So no S-duct then?

Nose is feeding the vent.

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rayden wrote:So no S-duct then?

Nose is feeding the vent.
But nose feeding the top vent is illegal, cause thats exactly like Ferrari did years back. The underside is most likely feeding that like he normal S-duct. Nose is most likely formed to reduce the blunt impact, so the air can actually travel to the sides.

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avatar wrote:
atanatizante wrote:1) What influence has had the swap from superconductors to Li-ion battery
Im guessing you meant super capacitors?
(superconductors in that environment would be one hell of an achievement )
He probably meant super capacitors yeah:

http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2012/04/17/re ... apacitors/