[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Jackles-UK]

With Lando I think they’ll probably go for mediums off the line and can either try a one stop onto the hard on the 2nd stint or a two stop with medium and soft options towards the end. I would think that a safety car is almost guaranteed tomorrow and overtaking might be tricky so that give more strength to a one stop to steal track position when everyone else pits.

[mwillems]

Yes 9th and 11th is great. Lando should start on Hards and look to go long. P6/7 finishes possible in what will be a tough race for drivers and tires

Hards on the start? Would be interesting... Is it too much of a handicap at the start though? It is expected that overtakes will be hard tomorrow, losing positions in the start may not be worth the gamble?


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Fair point but I was thinking the McLarens usually make very fast starts and then it's tough to pass and everyone will settle in to save tires after 1-2 laps so not much to lose

If you don't get the heat into those C1s on the formation lap, you could lose a lot of grip and places. Might be risky, and I'm not sure it is necessary, but I don't know how long the softs will last at this point. I look forward to seeing Pirellis optimal strategy data.

[bauc]

Not great not terrible.... if we have good tire strategy tomorrow and good management of the same we can hope for both cars in the points

[godlameroso]

Big stonking headwind into turn 1, I think overtaking is possible.

[trinidefender]

Yes 9th and 11th is great. Lando should start on Hards and look to go long. P6/7 finishes possible in what will be a tough race for drivers and tires

Do the guys starting on softs have a chance to make a 1 stopper, or does starting on softs mean you'll likely need to stop twice?

I'd start him on Medium I think and see how the race goes. Gives us a chance for a better start and the option for a more flexible strategy in the race.

Starting on mediums gives McLaren a chance for a better start? The softer compound of the soft will generally give more grip off of the line which can be crucial to gaining positions on a start and braking for turn 1. Unless of course you're talking about gaining track position from an early safety car when everyone dives into the pits?

[mwillems]

Yes 9th and 11th is great. Lando should start on Hards and look to go long. P6/7 finishes possible in what will be a tough race for drivers and tires

Do the guys starting on softs have a chance to make a 1 stopper, or does starting on softs mean you'll likely need to stop twice?

I'd start him on Medium I think and see how the race goes. Gives us a chance for a better start and the option for a more flexible strategy in the race.

Starting on mediums gives McLaren a chance for a better start? The softer compound of the soft will generally give more grip off of the line which can be crucial to gaining positions on a start and braking for turn 1. Unless of course you're talking about gaining track position from an early safety car when everyone dives into the pits?

Over hards, yes.

Carlos is already starting from softs, so perhaps splitting the strategy gives a better chance of maximising points, either by creating a train if overtaking is difficult or from taking advantage of a safety car or VSC.

Do we play it safe and go for the outer edges of the top ten (if we can't push on in the race) or look for an opportunity to sneak a fifth by taking advantage of assumptions about incidents and tyre wear?

Personally I would take the latter, it's not unlikely that we can make something of a split strategy either by incident or by sacrificing a car to allow the other to push up the field. Who knows, we may just overtake for fun because we have more grip in traffic and the latter part of a tyre.
Would you put softs on Lando or go with another strategy?

[SmallSoldier]

Do the guys starting on softs have a chance to make a 1 stopper, or does starting on softs mean you'll likely need to stop twice?

I'd start him on Medium I think and see how the race goes. Gives us a chance for a better start and the option for a more flexible strategy in the race.

Starting on mediums gives McLaren a chance for a better start? The softer compound of the soft will generally give more grip off of the line which can be crucial to gaining positions on a start and braking for turn 1. Unless of course you're talking about gaining track position from an early safety car when everyone dives into the pits?

Over hards, yes.

Carlos is already starting from softs, so perhaps splitting the strategy gives a better chance of maximising points, either by creating a train if overtaking is difficult or from taking advantage of a safety car or VSC.

Do we play it safe and go for the outer edges of the top ten (if we can't push on in the race) or look for an opportunity to sneak a fifth by taking advantage of assumptions about incidents and tyre wear?

Personally I would take the latter, it's not unlikely that we can make something of a split strategy either by incident or by sacrificing a car to allow the other to push up the field. Who knows, we may just overtake for fun because we have more grip in traffic and the latter part of a tyre.
Would you put softs on Lando or go with another strategy?

Splitting the strategy seems the best bet... You cover all your bases that way... Let’s see what team decides for tomorrow’s race!

Hope we take some risks and are a little bit creative.


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[mclaren111]

Albert Fabrega:

Sainz: "We wouldn't have won much without the yellow flag. We were behind and I tried something different for quali and it worked. We didn't expect to be in Q3. The pace in the race is nothing special either. Tomorrow we will have to fight hard"

Let's hope for better....

[PhillipM]

No point at all starting Lando on the soft, this place is gonna be a tyre lottery anyway, mediums. You'd start on hards if it wasn't so likely to be a safety car here when someone beaches in the gravel.

[mwillems]

Does anyone know how many sets of new tyres Lando has kept?

[trinidefender]

No point at all starting Lando on the soft, this place is gonna be a tyre lottery anyway, mediums. You'd start on hards if it wasn't so likely to be a safety car here when someone beaches in the gravel.

I agree. New track that people don't know that well, lots of gravel traps which punish errors and windy conditions mean there is probably going to be a safety car early on.

That first corner actually looks interesting for the start of a race

[McL-H]

So, rumours in the Daily Mail are now suggesting that Mercedes are selling their F1 team to Ineos and investor Jim Ratcliffe for 700M. The news is backed up by Eddy Jordan. The rumours suggest the Mercedes name will stay connected to the team until 2022. Toto Wolf is to step down as team boss and is to sell his shares. He will stay on as advisor.

For McLaren, I smell chances of getting back a Mercedes works deal. I felt since the announcement of our return to Mercedes engines that the team were anticipating on a Mercedes departure on their factory team. Now, if the rumour is true, all the cards are on the table. It may be the final push we need to return to glory days.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formu ... -team.html

[M840TR]

Does anyone know how many sets of new tyres Lando has kept?

1 of each.

[Andres125sx]

The team claims that a certain blowing wind is hampering their car balance. What do you guys think? Why is the team having so many ups and downs in performance? Is it possible that we are still weak in terms of aerodynamics but very powerful in speed circuits?

McLaren is not having many ups and downs, only if you compare it with Mercedes but all the rest have a lot more ups and downs than Mclaren. That´s the reason for the 3rd place in the WCC.

[diffuser]

So, rumours in the Daily Mail are now suggesting that Mercedes are selling their F1 team to Ineos and investor Jim Ratcliffe for 700M. The news is backed up by Eddy Jordan. The rumours suggest the Mercedes name will stay connected to the team until 2022. Toto Wolf is to step down as team boss and is to sell his shares. He will stay on as advisor.

For McLaren, I smell chances of getting back a Mercedes works deal. I felt since the announcement of our return to Mercedes engines that the team were anticipating on a Mercedes departure on their factory team. Now, if the rumour is true, all the cards are on the table. It may be the final push we need to return to glory days.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formu ... -team.html

A Mercedes works deal without Mercedes. That would be a first. Would it all just be in our head?



Works deals aren't what they used to be. They put rules in place to make any edge of being a works team illegal. Even lubricants and fuels need to be shared, even thought you an put a huge sticker on the car saying they're being supplied by some else.