2014 Testing - Bahrain 19-22 Feb

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What happend with the Mclaren, because in the last one hour and a half didn't come out of the garage? I don't think that their programe was just 66 laps.

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JimClarkFan wrote:What about the smaller teams, do we still expect to see Caterham and Marussia at the back of the field. I really want to see these guys move up.
Not seeing it I'm afraid. Marussia is unreliable and the Caterham too conservative to be competitive.

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Blackout wrote:Same question.
Autosprint has just reported that also today at least in the finishline (not the top speed spot) ferrari was the fastest car

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Hello !
Does anyone know where I can get the times of Button's race sim. of yesterday ?
Thanks a lot.
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Rosberg on his fast laps...
Rosberg accepted that some of Mercedes' pace advantage was down to the fact that the team ran its car lighter on fuel than anyone else has so far in pre-season.

"It's too early to say exactly where we were because I'm sure the other guys didn't take out as much fuel as we did," he said. "So we have to be very careful.

"We were doing qualifying practice, which explains the gaps and it's impossible to know exactly what other people were doing."
And a comment that the Renault teams might find discomforting...
"We've discovered a lot of issues which you only learn if you push the car to the limit, so these were important discoveries to reduce the amount of issues to be able to finish in Australia."
http://www.racer.com/index.php/latest-s ... -fuel-pace

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For the fans of tyre comparisons (http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 15497.html):

The performance differences in Bahrain between tyre compounds were approximately as follows:
- the supersoft around 0.7s per lap faster than the soft
- the soft around 1.2s per lap quicker than the medium
- the medium is around 1.3s per lap quicker than the hard.

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Pup wrote:Rosberg on his fast laps...
Rosberg accepted that some of Mercedes' pace advantage was down to the fact that the team ran its car lighter on fuel than anyone else has so far in pre-season.

"It's too early to say exactly where we were because I'm sure the other guys didn't take out as much fuel as we did," he said. "So we have to be very careful.

"We were doing qualifying practice, which explains the gaps and it's impossible to know exactly what other people were doing."
And a comment that the Renault teams might find discomforting...
"We've discovered a lot of issues which you only learn if you push the car to the limit, so these were important discoveries to reduce the amount of issues to be able to finish in Australia."
http://www.racer.com/index.php/latest-s ... -fuel-pace
Interesting.
Lotus did push the engine to the edge today for the first time, but for a short time according to Chester Btw. That's why we must find that damned top speed chart :mrgreen:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know

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motobaleno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know
vid not working

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Kimi taking blame for crash and explaining it using smallest number of words possible! http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... in-bahrain

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JimClarkFan wrote:
motobaleno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know
vid not working
just tested: it works. at least to me

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vtr wrote:
Juzh wrote: RB also seriously sandbagged in 2010 and 11 in pre season. Were they behind in melbourne in those years? They weren't. They also weren't behind in 2013 on pace, just on tire conservation.

5-6s off the pace though is definitely not sandbagging.
Yes. Also back then they could actually, you know, run the car. Their problems were mainly tire degradation. They ended the 2013 preseason testing having run 11,8% less than the Mercedes.
On the 2 tests so far, they have run 76.4% less than Mercedes (4.3 times less!). Not the same situation. I am sure Red Bull themselves know they are in much bigger trouble than they were last year.
Absolutely. Not the times are the problem, the distance is the problem.
Due to the various problems RedBull has nearly 0 kilometers to learn from. Only the fact, that the systems do not work and some aero tests on launch spec...
Mercedes has 3000km in nearly race pace to learn tire degradation, fuel efficiency, setup, power output, etc...
This is three times the distance they did in a limited tiretest last year and everyone knows how much they profited from this one regarding race pace.
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motobaleno wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:
motobaleno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know
vid not working
just tested: it works. at least to me
yes, works now, error messages earlier, thanks

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motobaleno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know
Wow, I close my eyes and hear Group C cars!

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motobaleno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know
I like it. Will be interesting to find out if there will be differences between the teams with the same engines as well.

On the topic of top speeds: that doesn't mean a while lot just yet either, does it? If for example Ferrari really are putting on all the bits next week, not having all that downforce on now is invariably going to raise their top speed now, skewing that perspective. And regardless, we don't know how much downforce all the teams are working with at the moment, so again, that makes it impossible to make a clear comparison regarding engine power or whatever. Perhaps the only thing we can conclude is that the Ferrari car can put whatever power they have, to use relatively easy?