2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Marti_EF3]

Indeed, mcmika you do know better then this don’t you? This is an technical forum, a basic understanding of when a driver is pushing or when that is useless (and eve contra productive) is expected.

Lets not pretend that Kvyat was not pushing. He had nothing to lose from getting into Q2 just like Albon did. The new spec engine from all teams turned out to be a dud. Sainz didnt like it, the Merc for first time on this formula could not stop exploding and even the Ferrari had issues.

Lol, Albon was cruising to get to Q2. Really, you think Kvyat or Albon were pushing?? Nothing to lose?? Why push Q modes on the PU if you are going to start last? Better save it.

I never get your point. If you pretend to do some trolling, or you're basically too obstinated on saying bad things about Honda. Always searching excuses to blame on them. Delusional

[Godius]

verstappen just said on sky that he wasnt able to run quali modes at all, due to Q1 problem. Supposedly it's a issue with engine mappings which just dont work as they should when quali mode is activated. He says it should be better tommorow when no one will be able to run highest modes for long, so the field should come towards them a bit. He was confident of a podium finish and said he could scrap it with merc in quali with proper high power modes.

Didn't Honda had similar issues like this when they were with McLaren? It seems like they still have to figure some things out. Race pace is looking more promising indeed.

[ME4ME]

Didn't Honda had similar issues like this when they were with McLaren? It seems like they still have to figure some things out. Race pace is looking more promising indeed.

I think this is a different problem. When Alonso took Pouhon flat and upset the energy management system he could still set a decent lap. Max' car however looked like going into some sort of serious safe-mode. It stopped accelerating full stop, rather than just losing deployment. In a corner such as Pouhon with extreme peak G-force my guess would be some pressure sensor triggered the safe mode in order to avoid cavitation. Could be that the spec 2 engine and its oil system are on the limit regarding oil circulation while cornering at such g-force.

[ispano6]

It's going to be an intriguing race tomorrow. Watch for Albon's pace as he blasts past the midfield.

[McMika98]

It's going to be an intriguing race tomorrow. Watch for Albon's pace as he blasts past the midfield.

After todays incident i doubt any driver will want to be pushing through eau rouge behind another car.

[Juzh]

verstappen's q3 lap, for which he apparently had no quali modes available

https://streamable.com/ookbw

[ispano6]

Seems it was a setting issue, not a mapping issue per se.

“We know what it [the problem] is, I need to do two changes on the steering wheel to get it back to normal.”

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... JjTyr.html

[NL_Fer]

Mercedes pu reliability is a question mark Ferrari race pace also .personally I don't understand why Rbr Honda didn't put a new pu on overtaking is pretty easy in spa than monza track position is not important at the start when most cars are bunched up. Mercedes may not also be using quali if you consider their spate of reliability issues.

With hindsight yes, but they couldn’t suspect it would be this bad. With full power available, Verstappen would have competed for 2nd place.

[Marti_EF3]

Seems it was a setting issue, not a mapping issue per se.

“We know what it [the problem] is, I need to do two changes on the steering wheel to get it back to normal.”

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... JjTyr.html

Another setting issue like the one in Monaco, letting Max on the wrong map for the rest of the race??

[Jaisonas]

Seems it was a setting issue, not a mapping issue per se.

“We know what it [the problem] is, I need to do two changes on the steering wheel to get it back to normal.”

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... JjTyr.html

Another setting issue like the one in Monaco, letting Max on the wrong map for the rest of the race??

Monaco issue wasnt a mapping issue but a torque delivery issue. AKA the way the engine responds to your throttle application.

[Sieper]

No, nothing like that. In Monaco Max Forgot to switch of the “pit” mode. Something you apparently cant correct once up to speed. Here it was just an issue that when they tried to use high power qualy modes the engine went into self protect mode. To me it seems that Either thís high power mapping the unit is incapable of, or, more likely, the unit has already had much usage and now no longer can reach peak power. Hopefully the spec4 is better in this respect.

[Marti_EF3]

I thought too that was due to the old PU, it have been used hard during all races.

[Jaisonas]

In any case, the only serious problem that honda still has is ECU management and settings. Once they fix that, they're world championship material

[etusch]

Maybe reliability will decide winner. There were too many problems out there for teams

[Singabule]

Maybe the PU just too old and one of the sensors read this when they switched to Q3 settings. Honda fail safe mode so strong/complicated hence the race team could not overwrite it on time. The old spec 3 cant compete in SPA and MON and they know it, so scrap tha qualy mode.