Team: Tim Goss (TD), Sam Michael (SD), Simon Roberts (OD), Neil Oatley (Director of Design & Development), Jonathan Neale (MD), Ron Dennis (McLaren Group CEO) Drivers: Jenson Button (22), Kevin Magnussen (20), Stoffel Vandoorne (Res)
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Anderson highlights a clever point that its like a wing flap that opens and closes. At high speed, the aero downforce will push the car down opening up gaps between the arms and the floor to reduce drag. At low speed the arms will be close to the floor to maximise the downforce benefits.
Does having those shutters really increase downforce? I mean after all this work that teams put in to slim down and undercut their sidepods to get as much flow over the diffuser as possible, it seems a bit counter intuitive. I'm not convinced with Anderson's analysis.
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Anderson highlights a clever point that its like a wing flap that opens and closes. At high speed, the aero downforce will push the car down opening up gaps between the arms and the floor to reduce drag. At low speed the arms will be close to the floor to maximise the downforce benefits.
I don't buy "reduce drag" at all. I mean, compared to what? You would surely have least drag if you remove the contraption altogether.
Also, if blocking benefitted diffuser performance, why simply not have a big radiator outlet in that area?
Although I respect the innovation, I don't think that Macca would be able to convince Charlie W. that this arm must have this shape to function. On the other side, if the FIA wants to promote innovation, then they MUST accept this. My gut feeling is that it breaks the spirit of the rule both obviously and brutally, but what a great idea! Tough call either way.
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That suspension set-up has to still be very draggy even when there are some gaps between the components. They will not open all that much as the car starts to squat.
dren wrote:That suspension set-up has to still be very draggy even when there are some gaps between the components. They will not open all that much as the car starts to squat.
Agree. While this is an interesting idea, it does not come at all cheap in terms of drag penalty. I also question them being allowed to run it as if it indeed moves then it is a movable aerodynamic device. Another DDD it is not.
FIA can't say it's a moveable aerodynamic device if it conforms to their regulations regarding the shape of the suspension. If it does, it's just part of the suspension, and FIA must revise those regulations if they want to ban it.
emmepi27 wrote:My theory on Mc rear "butterfly" suspension: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfJyJw8CYAEG1aM.jpg
red: hot gasses from PU
green: "butterfly suspension"
yellow: very low pressure zone
under diffuser: almost high pressure
I am quite sure you want high pressure over the diffuser and low pressure under it